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Motorbike crash
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 2:00 am
by Gob
Not nice, I could only watch it once.
A mother in Norfolk has released footage of the moment her 38-year-old son was killed in a motorbike crash to remind motorists and cyclists alike of the dangers of driving.
The shocking and distressing footage was released by the Norfolk Constabulary on their YouTube page to ensure drivers of all vehicles thought seriously about road safety.
David Holmes was killed while riding his silver Yamaha on the A47 near Honingham, Norfolk on the evening of Saturday 8 June, 2013. He died after his bike collided with a Renault vehicle travelling in the opposite direction. Holmes had been riding motorbikes for 22 years.
Re: Motorbike crash
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 3:03 am
by wesw
thank god my son saw the light. he got rid of his Harley. it was a beautiful black and blue suicide machine.
hitting a deer was the final straw for him I think. thank god for his freakishly strong hands or he would have crashed.
unfortunately he traded it for a really fast 1980 Z-28. oh well, at least the Harley s gone...
Re: Motorbike crash
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:51 am
by Jarlaxle
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Re: Motorbike crash
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:28 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
I looked at the video more than once and suspected a problem with the biker's speed, so I checked:
A motorcyclist travelling at 97 miles per hour down one of Norfolk’s busiest roads died when he crashed with a turning car. David Holmes, 38, was riding his silver Yamaha towards Norwich from King’s Lynn on June 8 last year when he crashed with a Renault Clio travelling in the opposite direction, an inquest heard yesterday.
Mr Holmes, a former North Walsham High School and Paston College pupil, had been at a bike meeting in King’s Lynn and was making his way back along the A47 to his home in Sprowston. The inquest heard the Clio had taken the correct position in the road to turn at a crossroads as the Yamaha travelling in the opposite direction went to overtake. As the gaps between the two vehicles closed, the Clio had turned right across the path of the motorcycle and Mr Holmes was thrown from his bike into a nearby hedgerow.There was a digital recording of Mr Holmes’ journey from King’s Lynn.
Speaking at yesterday’s inquest, PC Graham Brooks said both motorists would have been in each other’s available view for seven seconds before impact. PC Brooks said: “The average speed of the motorcycle was almost 97 miles an hour, well above the 60 mile per hour limit.” He said the footage showed Mr Holmes had made no obvious acknowledgement of his speed and showed a disregard for his own safety.
He said: “If the Yamaha had been driving at 60 miles per hour the collision could have been avoided.” PC Brooks said there was no reason why the driver of the Clio, Benjamin Austin, had failed to see Mr Holmes approaching on his bike. He said: “Witnesses behind Mr Austin say they had seen it and were aware of its presence.”
Austin pleaded guilty in April to causing death by careless driving, admitting he had not seen Mr Holmes.. Assistant coroner Johanna Thompson said Mr Holmes had lost control and collided with the Clio.
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I weep for the biker's stupidity, for the Clio driver's stupidity, for the loss of one's life and the loss to his family and for the driver of the Clio who was hit by a speeding bullet.
60mph is 88 fps x 7 seconds = 616 feet
97mph is 140fps x 7 seconds = 980 feet
Mr. Holmes should have been 360 feet away from the Clio if he'd been obeying the law instead of tearing down a busy road breaking the law.
That could have been me turning right, looking ahead, seeing one car far enough away to allow the turn, thinking "OK. Go", seeing the horribly speeding bike suddenly come from behind it as my brain still says "go" and I start the turn thinking I've still got time; hesitating mentally but with my foot still trying to decide whether to obey the first instruction or do something different, stopping the turn too late. 7 seconds...980 feet. It could have been me very easily. Lord knows, I've missed seeing 18-wheelers.
Benjamin Austin, 29, of Long Lane, Stoke Holy Cross, pleaded guilty to causing death by careless driving and was sentenced at Norwich Magistrates’ Court yesterday. The court heard Austin admitted he had not seen Mr Holmes before making the turn, and has always accepted he should have done.
Simon Shannon, mitigating, argued special reasons for his client not to be disqualified from driving or to have his licence endorsed, relating to the speed Mr Holmes was travelling – said to be 97mph. But district judge Peter Veits did not accept the argument and said it was Austin’s actions which caused the accident.
In mitigation, Mr Shannon said his client, a dad-of-two who works in King’s Lynn, had a clean licence that he had held for 12 years and he had never had an accident. He added: “He’s the sole breadwinner. If he were to lose his employment it would have a great impact on his family.” Mr Shannon said Austin was “genuinely remorseful” and had pleaded guilty at the first listing of the case.
In passing sentence, the judge said no one had suggested Austin had been driving dangerously, but he had made a mistake that “sadly” too many other drivers also make, of “simply” not seeing the motorcycle. He sentenced Austin to a 12-month community order, with 130 hours’ unpaid work, and disqualified him from driving for 18 months. He also ordered him to pay a £60 surcharge and £200 costs.
Mr Veits added: “Nothing I can impose can turn the clock back and undo the tragic consequences of the accident that sadly took away the life of Mr Holmes. I only hope the family of Mr Holmes can now move on as this case is concluded and attempt to rebuild their lives.”
Re: Motorbike crash
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 6:24 pm
by rubato
KE = 1/2 MVExp2
KE = kinetic energy
M= mass
V= velocity
The velocity term is squared so that at 97 mph you have 2.6 TIMES as much energy as at 60mph, and as the Maj points out, a lot less time to do anything with it.
97mph on a bike in traffic is suicide.
yrs,
rubato
Re: Motorbike crash
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:16 pm
by Gob
I think I saw him, at least at one point, overtaking with one hand off the bars too.
Re: Motorbike crash
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:17 pm
by Econoline
MajGenl.Meade wrote:I weep for the biker's stupidity, for the Clio driver's stupidity, for the loss of one's life and the loss to his family and for the driver of the Clio who was hit by a speeding bullet.
60mph is 88 fps x 7 seconds = 616 feet
97mph is 140fps x 7 seconds = 980 feet
Mr. Holmes should have been 360 feet away from the Clio if he'd been obeying the law instead of tearing down a busy road breaking the law.
Excellent analysis, General. Overall, I feel more empathy for the driver of the car than the driver of the motorcycle; like you, I felt,
"That could have been me..."
Part of, or most of, the reason for the motorcycle not registering in time in Mr. Austin's sight has to have been the fact that it was
much further away than it should have been, seconds before the crash...much like the way a certain Porsche Spyder didn't register as an imminent danger to Donald Turnupseed on that California highway in 1955. ("
Some sources give Dean's last known words—uttered right before the impact when Wütherich told Dean to slow down when they both saw the 1950 Ford Tudor coupe about to pull into their lane—as
'That guy's gotta stop... He'll see us.' " I should also note that, unlike Mr. Austin, Mr. Turnupseed was found not guilty of any contributory wrongdoing in the death of James Dean---but nevertheless he was devastated and haunted for the rest of his life by the accident.)
Re: Motorbike crash
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:10 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
Look twice (or three or four time) save a life.
I guess right turns in the UK are similar to left turns here in the states.
Been there, done that, got the injuries.