Crackpot wrote:it's not like any corrective attempted action won't earn just as many judgements and disapproving looks.
After all do you know what's more annoying than a
young child engaging in very loud, annoyingly repetitive screechy sing-songing while disturbing the peace
?
A parent yelling at a
young child engaging in very loud, annoyingly repetitive screechy sing-songing while disturbing the peace
.
Anything else is likely to get CPS called on them.
Things people who have never had small children don't get:
Parents need a break too.
Parents in a subconscious effort to save their own sanity learn how to tune our the everyday turmoil their spawn create.
Something everyone forgets:
You don't know everyones situation. Handle adversity with patience, charity and understanding.
P.S. bold=my edit
There's no need whatsoever to 'yell' at such a child, ever. Effective discipline does not require yelling - she didn't bother saying a single word to the child, in any level of voice - I was sitting at the next table, I heard EVERYTHING that was going on.
I do handle adversity with patience, charity and understanding on a regular basis, Crackpot - but thanks for the judgmental assumption.
Letting your child disturb a public space for 45+ minutes while saying nothing isn't excusable - you need a break? Get a sitter, or take your mental break while your children are in school or sleeping, or take your break over McDonald's coffee while your kids scream and yell and work off their excess energy in the Play Place - or, don't take a break until they are old enough to behave.
Somehow, parents managed to do that in yesteryear. There is no excuse for this new trend of letting one's 'spawn' create 'everyday turmoil' in public, other than a total lack of consideration for others on the part of the parents, which they are instilling in their children by this very refusal to require their children to conform their behavior in a public space. This was not a toddler - this was an articulate 5/6/7 year old girl who is perfectly developmentally capable of keeping quiet when quiet behavior is demanded - had it been demanded.
eta: Your comments on kid-related issues as now somehow an 'expert' because you've finally had a child are very annoying. It is NOT true that people who haven't had kids - either because they can't biologically, or can't afford them, or have made the choice not to have children for some other reason - don't 'get' what parenting is about.
That is the stupidest myth perpetrated by the 'new' parents of today - we ALL understand what parenting is about, because unless you were raised by wolves, you HAD parents growing up, and you were a obviously once a kid. Duh.
Stupid ass comment that is very offensive toward the childless or childfree.
Not to mention that many of us have expended a great deal of time and effort toward helping to raise, or raising outright, other peoples' children. I've step-parented a 3-5 year old, a 6-8 year old, and a 13-15 year old - I've also babysat for extended periods of time children as young a 3 months old. I know about not getting sleep, being frayed, exhausted, etc. But somehow I managed to expect good behavior of the children I was raising, to discipline them appropriately when they didn't behave as they were developmentally able in a public setting, and to remove them from said public setting for the sake of other customers/patrons so my step-children or wards would learn to be considerate of others or there would be a negative consequence.
I guess we know that you don't expect your child to be considerate of others, considering your response. Don't feel compelled to beat me over the head with repeated declarations of your 'expert' parenting skills and repeated defenses of inconsiderate people who raise inconsiderate children - it will be a waste of your energy.
