Plan B Forum

I recently heard on NPR that there is a possibility that Jackson may lose his place of honor on the twenty dollar bill and be replaced by a woman. Now I love women, but I am not in favor of changing the tradition of honoring the founders with their portraits on the common bills, notes one to a hundred. Well now Jackson really was not a founder of our nation, but he did stand up to the British army during the revolution and got a beating for it and he was one of the founders of the Democrat party. He also was one of our greatest presidents.

If you are determined get rid of someone, let it be Grant; he was neither a founder or a great president.

If you are determined get rid of someone, let it be Grant; he was neither a founder or a great president.

If you are determined to get rid of someone, let it be Grant; he was neither a founder or a great president.

Jackson was an Indian-killer and an embarrassment to the presidency in many ways - definitely not so deserving of being on a $20 bill as any of the women proposed to take his place.

It's pretty disgusting that beyond a couple of novelty coins that never caught on in common usage, we have none of our founding mothers or finest women citizens on our currency.

The poll is stupid because duh.

bigskygal wrote:Jackson was an Indian-killer and an embarrassment to the presidency in many ways - definitely not so deserving of being on a $20 bill as any of the women proposed to take his place.

It's pretty disgusting that beyond a couple of novelty coins that never caught on in common usage, we have none of our founding mothers or finest women citizens on our currency.

The poll is stupid because duh.

Are you saying I would use push poll tactics and make them so flagrant and obvious that anyone could see it?

Hey, there is the see comments option and don‘t take this stuff too serious it all in fun.

Perhaps one day, long after the first woman president is dead and the Democrat and Republican parties are no longer important (who cares about Whigs these days?), they can put that dead lady president on a bill.

In the meantime, for whatever reason and of course it's because women have been disenfranchised/held back/not allowed etc., etc., there haven't been any women in positions of national leadership of sufficient importance to be memorialized on a bank note.

That doesn't mean there haven't been brave and important women in USian history - just not of sufficient national leadership significance

FWIW I don't care if Jackson stays or goes. (And let's face it, Grant isn't there because he was a good president but because he was the key Union general in suppressing the War of the Rebellion).

I would like to see dr king on a bill. harriet tubman would be ok too, I always favor the local folks (see Preakness thread) both fought for liberty

...as far as Jackson, we may as well leave the bastard be. liberty goes a step too far in calling him great. effective maybe. I have a biography on him that I should read, but my arms are too short.

war is one thing, the slaughter of women and children is another....

... Eleanor could be on the three dollar bill!

Gee Lib judging by how many times you said it, you must dislike Grant almost as much as you dislike Puerto Rico...

BTW Lib, Jackson wasn't a "Founder". He was never a member of The Continental Congress, and he had no hand in the Constitution nor was he a signer of the Declaration of Independence. He was part of the next generation.

liberty wrote: Well now Jackson really was not a founder of our nation, but .....

I bet Lib's glad you took all that trouble to correct him...

That's what I get for skimming...

bigskygal wrote:Jackson was an Indian-killer and an embarrassment to the presidency in many ways - definitely not so deserving of being on a $20 bill as any of the women proposed to take his place.

It's pretty disgusting that beyond a couple of novelty coins that never caught on in common usage, we have none of our founding mothers or finest women citizens on our currency.

The poll is stupid because duh.

The SB Anthony and Sacagawea (sp?) coins would have been successful if they had dumped the 1$ bill as they ought to now.


I'm looking forward to seeing Victoria Woodhull on a bill. Now there was a colorful character.



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rubato

rubato wrote:

bigskygal wrote:Jackson was an Indian-killer and an embarrassment to the presidency in many ways - definitely not so deserving of being on a $20 bill as any of the women proposed to take his place.

It's pretty disgusting that beyond a couple of novelty coins that never caught on in common usage, we have none of our founding mothers or finest women citizens on our currency.

The poll is stupid because duh.

The SB Anthony and Sacagawea (sp?) coins would have been successful if they had dumped the 1$ bill as they ought to now.


I'm looking forward to seeing Victoria Woodhull on a bill. Now there was a colorful character.



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rubato

How much more colorful does a man have to be? He killed a man over his wife’s honor and defied a SC order and got away with it.

Lord Jim wrote:Gee Lib judging by how many times you said it, you must dislike Grant almost as much as you dislike Puerto Rico...

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I have nothing against Puerto Rico; I just don’t think we should continue to let them use us with out a ring and a commitment. We can’t really blame them ;why should they buy the cow when they can get the milk free. What are we a nation of whores, we have no self respect?

We should replace Jackson on the $20.00 bill with Elvis Presley.

Better to memorialize a king than a redskin killer....

Washington was a brutal slaveholder. Lincoln conscripted soldiers and suspended habeas corpus -- not to mention prosecuting the bloodiest war in human history. Hamilton -- never a President -- was perhaps the most polarizing political figure in all of American history, ratcheting up factionalism and promoting his view of an authoritarian central government with expansive powers. Jackson was infamous for his defiance of the Supreme Court and the horrors of the Trail of Tears. Grant was an objectively terrible President whose administration was notoriously corrupt and under whom the nation's economy virtually collapsed.

(I can't think of anything bad to say about Ben Franklin off the top of my head.)

The fact is, if you're only going to put paragons of virtue on your currency, you'll be hard pressed to find anyone worthy of being on it. And why do we have to have pictures of people on it anyway?

wesw wrote: war is one thing, the slaughter of women and children is another....

I think that you are either referring to the Battle of Horse Shoe Bend or the Trail of Tears, both were exacerbated by his personality. Once he got his back up, it was hard for him to come down. A story goes that after his death, some of his slaves were arguing whether he would go to heaven or hell. An old slave woman knew him well spoke up and said, if the general wants to go to heaven who is going to tell him he can’t.

look, I don t want to take him off the 20, I think we should honor the truth and leave it be, but don t bother making excuses for him. he was a beast.

believe me, I know about rage, I don t make excuses for my own past, I face the fact that I was a beast. you can find a better hero.

dr king on the 1000 dollar bill would be great. harriet tubman on the ten thousand, and all will be good

And why do we have to have pictures of people on it anyway?

I was thinking the same thing.
Nature in all its glory and even some of it's wrath (hurricanes, tornados, etc) would be my choice.

Sue

Franklin was a notorious womanizer.