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The Joy of Modern Banking
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:18 am
by Joe Guy
Last Sunday I used the ATM at Wells Fargo to deposit 3 checks. The machine accepted them and then gave me a message that the bank is not accepting deposits today.
Then it gave me only two of the three checks back.
I figured I'd go in on Monday and claim the missing check and deposit it. I decided to call first to see if we could correct the transaction by phone and was told that they don't touch ATM deposits at the branch and I would need to call their 800 number.
I called the 800 number and was told the local teller was correct and I needed to submit a claim. The claim will take three weeks to process.
Does this make any sense to anybody?
Not me...

Re: The Joy of Modern Banking
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:49 am
by dales
Then it gave me only two of the three checks back.
Consider yourself lucky, they could've taken all three checks and told you to pound salt.

Re: The Joy of Modern Banking
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:50 am
by Scooter
Sort of. All of those cheques from all of the ATMs are going to some central clearing centre. I don't know how they are batched, but someone is going to have to do a lot of manual searching to determine which cheque is not associated with a deposit. I don't know if that should or should not take three weeks, but I can imagine that it is not going to be a quick process.
If you had contacted whoever issued the cheque first thing Monday morning, they might have been able to stop payment on the cheque and re-issue it to you faster than the time required to locate and deposit the original.
Re: The Joy of Modern Banking
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 7:11 pm
by Joe Guy
Scooter wrote:
If you had contacted whoever issued the cheque first thing Monday morning, they might have been able to stop payment on the cheque and re-issue it to you faster than the time required to locate and deposit the original.
I thought of that but found out that it would cost the issuer $31.00 to stop payment. Besides, it's the bank's fault and they should fix it.
It makes no sense that the local bank can't access the ATM deposits.
Re: The Joy of Modern Banking
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:55 am
by Guinevere
You shouldn't have to wait 3 weeks for the funds.
See if the bank will waive the stop payment fee, then get a new check.
Except I'd its a $20 check, don't bother
Re: The Joy of Modern Banking
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 1:56 pm
by Big RR
I'm not sure of the present Scooter, but years ago I worked in the check processing (transit) department of a bank and any check which was either not part of a deposit slip or part of a deposit where the other checks were missing would be flagged within hours and the customer contacted. And processing was at the bank level, not a central processing facility as they had to record deposits and prove outcash payments at the bank; there may have been one bank that did it for all the local branches, but it would likely be local.
Re: The Joy of Modern Banking
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 2:49 pm
by rubato
It's called "kiting" and every financial institutions does it for as long as they can get away with it.
I just made an electronic funds transfer which will take 2 "business" days (4 days total) while they get their hand-cranked Webley-Vickers automatic accounting machine working.
When I transfer post tax savings from my work 401k to our Bank (where we keep the other post tax savings) it takes 4 business days. I think they have to buy new hamsters to run the little wheels that make it go.
yrs,
rubato
Re: The Joy of Modern Banking
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 2:53 pm
by rubato
Guinevere wrote:"...
Except I'd its a $20 check, don't bother
Stealing from the poor is good business, and helps maintain the supply.
yrs,
rubato
Re: The Joy of Modern Banking
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 3:21 pm
by Big RR
This is different from kiting; this is a check which was lost while in their possession that they say will take the 3 weeks to locate. Now if they cashed it and did that, they might realize a benefit, but I don't know how the bank would account for the cash from the check.
Re: The Joy of Modern Banking
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 4:59 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
I do all my bank transations with a live teller.
Re: The Joy of Modern Banking
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:08 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
I always seem to end up in the line being worked by a dead one
Re: The Joy of Modern Banking
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 12:00 am
by dales
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Re: The Joy of Modern Banking
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:23 pm
by rubato
Bankers are simple souls really. Not difficult to communicate with once you understand them.
yrs,
rubato
Re: The Joy of Modern Banking
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:44 pm
by Lord Jim
oldr_n_wsr wrote:I do all my bank transations with a live teller.
I do that with deposits...(I went through a nightmare about a dozen years ago with a large deposited check similar to Joe's; it's amazing to me that there are people who will even deposit
cash into an ATM)
I'll take money out of an ATM in a pinch, but I usually replenish my wallet cash at the check-out at our local Luckys, where I can avoid paying an ATM fee...
(I bank with US Bank and they don't have a huge number of ATMs, but they're the best bank I've ever dealt with. No comparison with the Nazis at B of A or Wells Fargo.)
Re: The Joy of Modern Banking
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:56 pm
by BoSoxGal
rubato wrote:Bankers are simple souls really. Not difficult to communicate with once you understand them.
yrs,
rubato
Great toon!
Re: The Joy of Modern Banking
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:32 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
Lord Jim wrote:oldr_n_wsr wrote:I do all my bank transations with a live teller.
I do that with deposits...
Are you sure this post doesn't belong in Big RR's "I sneeze out dog poo" thread?

Re: The Joy of Modern Banking
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:34 pm
by dales
(I bank with US Bank and they don't have a huge number of ATMs, but they're the best bank I've ever dealt with. No comparison with the Nazis at B of A or Wells Fargo.)
Same here, LJ.
I've found US Bank to be far superior in customer service and friendliness.
it helps to have your govt. welfare checks direct deposited 
Re: The Joy of Modern Banking
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:17 am
by Joe Guy
In regards to the OP, I received this email today-
Account temporarily credited
ATM/Debit/Prepaid Card Claim Reference Number XXXXXXX
RE: Debit Card XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX
We are processing a temporary credit to your account XXXXXXXXXX. This credit is provisional until our investigation is complete.
We have sent a detailed letter by mail. Please refer to the letter for the credit amount.
To view the credit amount online, allow one business day for processing; then go to Account Activity.
Once the investigation is complete, we will notify you of the final outcome.
If you have questions, please call us at 1-877-230-8708.
Thank you for your patience in this matter.
Sincerely,
Wells Fargo ATM Operations
Big banks can multiply the smallest matter...
