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Posted: **Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:30 pm**

A white Chicago police officer who fatally shot a black teenager last December is suing his family for $10m (£6.9m), claiming emotional distress.

Robert Rialmo shot 19-year-old student Quintonio LeGrier six times, killing the boy's neighbour in the process.

Mr Rialmo says Mr LeGrier swung at him with a baseball bat from close range, but Mr LeGrier's lawyers say the two were at least 20ft (6m) apart.

The lawsuit comes amid a federal investigation into Chicago's police.

The investigation is focusing on the use of force by officers and the department's accountability procedures.

It was launched after weeks of protests over the police killing of a black teenager by a white officer.

Laquan McDonald, 17, was shot 16 times in 2014 by the officer, who was charged with murder over a year later.

The inquiry will take a similar form to those recently conducted in Baltimore and Ferguson, Missouri - as well as more than 20 other departments in recent years, and will look for systematic violations of US civil rights laws.

Joel Brodsky, Mr Rialmo's defence lawyer, said it was important in an atmosphere charged by police shootings to send a message that police are "not targets for assaults" and "suffer damage like anybody else".

Mr LeGrier's father, Antonio, filed a wrongful death lawsuit days after the shooting, saying his son was not armed with a weapon and was not a threat.

His lawyer, Basileios Foutris, said Mr Rialmo's lawsuit was "a new low even for the Chicago Police Department".

"First you shoot them, then you sue them," he said.

The lawsuit provides the officer's first public account of how he says the shooting happened.

Mr Rialmo, who was responding to a domestic disturbance call, says Mr LeGrier came charging at him down the stairs and swung a baseball bat at his head. Mr Rialmo says he backed away and shouted at Mr LeGrier to drop the bat, but drew his weapon and fired after the teenager swung the bat again.

Mr Rialmo fired six times, killing both Mr LeGrier and Bettie Jones, a neighbour who was standing behind the teenager.

Posted: **Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:40 am**

Lettuce Know Attempt To Balance The Equation........Good Cops

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/good-cops/

Posted: **Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:45 am**

Yeah...there might be a dozen or so good cops left.

But I wouldn't bet more than ten bucks on that.

Posted: **Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:13 am**

Jarl, why do you hate cops so much?

I've been arrested twice, each time the arresting officers were kind and considerate.

It's all about ATTITUDE when one deals with law enforcement personnel.

Perhaps you acted like a dick and got slapped down for it?

Posted: **Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:30 pm**

I see the rotten-to-the-core corruption. That, and the one time I actually did need them, they engaged in a criminal conspiracy with my attacker.

Posted: **Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:12 pm**

Jarlaxle wrote:I see the rotten-to-the-core corruption. That, and the one time I actually did need them, they engaged in a criminal conspiracy with my attacker.

Jarlaxle, I'm gonna call bullshit.  I don't even know you but I'm gonna call bullshit.

Usually, when I find someone who is all "Eff the cops" it's usually because at some point in time they were doing something that went against the rules or laws of society and the cops stopped them from doing it.  Sorry, but protestations like "there I was, minding my own business smoking my bong" or "I was just holding up the convenience store; it wasn't like I had shot anybody, you know?" or "I only had a couple of shots but they've gotta make their quota" after blowing a 0.14 on the breathalyzer, for example, just doesn't cut it with me.  Same goes for playing the race card, claiming the cops "don't understand where we're coming from", or spouting some line like "the cops are always out to hassle the gays/punks/homeless/anyone who looks like a Muslim..." — or the classic "Whaddya mean I can't do that?  I GOT MY RIGHTS!!!"

I'm willing to bet that I've met a damned sight more "good" cops in my 61-year life than you've met bad ones.  Of course, when I do have to have an encounter with a law enforcement officer I don't come into it with the attitude of "Phuque you, pig, what do *YOU* want anyway?" either.

-"BB"-

Posted: **Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:55 pm**

I called 911 on my psychotic father. His good friend was a police lieutenant and he knew both cops, who, after laughing and joking wth him for a while, told him to "not leave too many bruises."

Fuck off.

Posted: **Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:44 pm**

Sorry to hear that.

You might have explored other legal options?

I'm assuming they have mental health facilities where you live?

If not....

Perhaps you should re-locate to a more prosperous area where such services exist.

Posted: **Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:42 pm**

Never had that much trouble with the Officers ,the ones I really dislike are the neighbor hood investigators who are trying to make a name and trying to stick you with charges that you probably would have decked anyone else if they said it ,I think BB used to be in law enforcement .But on the other hand some of my best friends are cops ,so I have no problem with laws as long as they are not so eagerly and over zealously pursued .I have a problem with any cop that boasts they would write their own grandmother.

Posted: **Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:44 pm**

i guess there are some people who just have troubles in life, some of them involving police presence in a non-helpful way. I don't know anyone who has that kind of trouble with police, other than local ne'er-do-wells

Posted: **Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:45 pm**

dales wrote:Sorry to hear that.

You might have explored other legal options?

I'm assuming they have mental health facilities where you live?

If not....

Perhaps you should re-locate to a more prosperous area where such services exist.

Sober up.

Posted: **Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:00 am**

Jarlaxle wrote:
dales wrote:Sorry to hear that.

You might have explored other legal options?

I'm assuming they have mental health facilities where you live?

If not....

Perhaps you should re-locate to a more prosperous area where such services exist.
Sober up.

Lighten up.

Sorry you live in such a crappy area that doesn't offer mental health services.

Oh well, if you want to spend the rest of your miserable life with a stick jammed up your keester, who cares?

Posted: **Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:47 pm**

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Cleveland wants the estate of Tamir Rice to pay for the boy's ambulance ride and medical services he received after he was shot by a city police officer.

Assistant law director Carl Meyers filed a claim in Cuyahoga County Probate Court Wednesday notifying Tamir's estate that it owes the city $500 for "ambulance advance life support" and mileage expense for the ambulance ride to MetroHealth Medical Center.

"The callousness, insensitivity, and poor judgment required for the city to send a bill—its own police officers having slain 12-year-old Tamir—is breathtaking," the family's attorney, Subodh Chandra, said in an emailed statement. "This adds insult to homicide."

Chandra represents members of Tamir's family in a civil lawsuit filed against the city.

Spokesmen for the city did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Tamir was shot by a Cleveland police officer Nov. 22, 2014, after he was seen playing with a replica airsoft gun in a West Side park.

Tamir's family sued the city, in part arguing that officers Timothy Loehmann and Frank Garmback showed indifference to Tamir's life by not giving him any emergency aid after Loehmann shot him.

The officers stood around Tamir for four minutes, until an FBI agent arrived at the scene and gave the boy first aid.

The 911 caller also said Tamir looked like a juvenile and that the gun might have been fake, but that information was never relayed to officers Timothy Lohemann and Frank Garmback.

source

Posted: **Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:43 pm**

I heard about that this morning on the news, and was planning to post about it...

Absolutely unbelievable...

Posted: **Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:46 pm**

Cleveland - The Mistake By The Lake

Posted: **Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:36 pm**

Lord Jim wrote:I heard about that this morning on the news, and was planning to post about it...

Absolutely unbelievable...

Gob-smacking, ain't it?

No, not our Gob.
(Britain, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, slang) The mouth.
He′s always stuffing his gob with fast food.
Oi, you, shut your gob!
She's got such a gob on her – she′s always gossiping about someone or other.

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