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The murderous cunt speaks

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:59 am
by Scooter
Amanda Knox Makes Emotional Plea for Freedom
American Appears in Italian Court to Appeal her Conviction to 26 Years in Prison for the Murder of her College Roommate

By ANN WISE
Dec. 11, 2010

Amanda Knox made an impassioned and emotional plea for her freedom Saturday in the Italian court where she is appealing her conviction to 26 years in prison for the murder of her college roommate, breaking into tears as she spoke of the victim, Meredith Kercher.

"I am innocent," said Knox in Italian to the new jury that is judging her along with her co-defendant and ex-boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito.

"I am innocent. Raffele is innocent. We did not kill Meredith … we are paying with our lives for a crime we did not commit," she added strongly.

"I never would have expected to find myself here," said Knox to the jury, "condemned for a crime that I did not commit … I will never get used to this broken life."

Knox stood to speak at the beginning of the second hearing of her appeal which is taking place in the same courtroom in Perugia, Italy, where she was convicted almost exactly one year ago together with Sollecito, who was sentenced to 25 years in prison.

A third person, Ivorian immigrant Rudy Guede, was also convicted for participating in Kercher's murder in a separate trial. His 30-year conviction was reduced to 16 on appeal, and he is appealing again to Italy's highest Cassation court next week.

As a defendant, Knox is allowed by Italian law to make a "spontaneous statement" when she chooses during court proceedings.

"I and [Raffaele] deserve our freedom, like everyone else in this courtroom today," Knox insisted.

Knox spoke in an emotional crescendo that turned to sobs as she addressed her words to the family of the victim, Meredith Kercher, the UK student she is accused of murdering.

"To Meredith's family, I want to say that I am very sorry she is no longer living. I cannot know how you are feeling, but I have little sisters too, and the idea of them suffering and missing [someone] forever, terrifies me," she said.

The Kerchers, who live in England, were not present in court, but Knox said she hoped her words "would reach them."

"What you are going through is unacceptable," Knox sobbed, and after a long pause added, "I am sorry that all this happened to you...it isn't right and never will be."

She said Meredith was "nice, intelligent, and friendly, it was she who showed me around Perugia. I am grateful to her and honored to have known her."

In the three years since she was arrested, this was the first time Knox has publicly expressed her sorrow to the victim's family.

Meredith Kercher's father, John, who has spoken out very rarely since Kercher's death, has criticized the Knox family recently for never having expressed their condolences to him and his family, "no letter of sympathy, no word of regret."

Francesco Maresca, the lawyer representing the Kercher's as civil plaintiffs walked out of the courtroom as Knox began her statement.

He later told reporters that he left because he "didn't want to have to listen to these affirmations which come too late, are inappropriate, and devoid of any meaning, and intended to [impress] the appeals court."
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I never understood what it was about this bitch that caused portions of the U.S. media to abandon all semblance of reason and take up her cause.

Anyone who actually reviews the evidence (follow the link to the PDF attachment at the bottom of the page) as presented in its entirety in the reasoning for sentence issued by the judges in Knox's case, rather than in the distorted bits doled out my Knox's supporters and swallowed wholesale as gospel by some media outlets, could not rationally come to any other conclusion but that Knox had to be involved.

Re: The murderous cunt speaks

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:34 am
by Sean
It happens Scoot... It's just like the Louise Woodward case. Guilty as all hell but because she was a poor English girl all alone in a foreign country large sections of the British media took up her cause.

Re: The murderous cunt speaks

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:26 pm
by Joe Guy
I heard about this on my local talk radio station. It was mentioned that under Italian law, if she loses this appeal, her sentence can be extended further than the current 26 years.

Re: The murderous cunt speaks

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:40 pm
by Scooter
That is technically true, because in Italy both the prosecution and the defence can appeal a sentence, but in practice appeal courts tend to be more leniant than courts of first instance.

Re: The murderous cunt speaks

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:05 pm
by rubato
Among all the things I don't give a rats ass about is this here case.

Can we make it go away forever now. Please?

yrs,
rubato

Re: The murderous cunt speaks

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:59 am
by Lord Jim
I followed this case somewhat, and while I have some questions about the Italian jury system, there was absolutely no question about this girl's direct complicity in this murder.

I feel some sympathy for her parents, who obviously do not want to believe that their daughter is a stone cold sociopathic killer...(what parent would?)

But she should consider 26 years to be a gift....

If it were up to me, she'd be facing the needle....

Re: The murderous cunt speaks

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:21 am
by Long Run
The media I listen to and read here just reported the facts. I didn't recall hearing any editorializing about her innocence, and she was from the Pacific Northwest (Seattle). It was a big story since like any big story, it gets audience, which gets advertisers; so, in that sense, the story was reported all out of proportion with its importance and the clearness of the legal issues. Based on the bit I followed this, it seemed like she was guilty so the verdict was no surprise.

Re: The murderous cunt speaks

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:56 am
by Scooter
Depends on what passes for "facts". So much of the reporting seems to have depended practically exclusively on Friends of Amanda or similar sources for its "facts".

Re: The murderous cunt speaks

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:21 am
by Lord Jim
It was a big story since like any big story, it gets audience, which gets advertisers; so, in that sense, the story was reported all out of proportion with its importance and the clearness of the legal issues.
There's nothing new about this....

Stories with soap opera like lurid aspects have held a fascination with a large portion of the American public going back at least as far as the Fatty Arbuckle case nearly a hundred years ago...

The biggest one of all time was probably the Lindbergh kidnapping case...

Re: The murderous cunt speaks

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:32 am
by Andrew D
And even father back, at least to Lizzie Borden.

Re: The murderous cunt speaks

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:57 pm
by Gob
The parents of jailed US student Amanda Knox have been ordered to stand trial by a court in the Italian city of Perugia for libelling the police.

The couple told a newspaper that their daughter was abused by police during their investigation into the murder of British student Meredith Kercher.

Knox is currently serving a 26-year sentence in an Italian jail for the 2007 murder of her flatmate.

Perugia's police deny the accusations by Curt Knox and Edda Mellas.

Their trial is due to begin on 4 July.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12470220

Re: The murderous cunt speaks

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:27 pm
by Scooter
Well fuck me pink, the murderous cunt got off for now.

Still to be seen if the prosecution will appeal to the Court of Cassation, which is the highest court for criminal matters.

Re: The murderous cunt speaks

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:32 am
by quaddriver
I dunno, I didnt really follow this, but you all heard the evidence as dictated as to what the italian courts wanted you to hear. On a much smaller scale, you heard the rebuttal as dictated as to what her defense team wanted you to hear.

However, the appeals court, and the prosecution both agreed: that the problems found with the gathering dissecting and presentation of the evidence was flawed, hence she walks. Im sure the prosection did not WANT to agree. But facts is facts. Flawed evendence trails will get the guilty off. If in fact she is guilty.

Re: The murderous cunt speaks

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:03 am
by BoSoxGal
Except in the USA, where flawed evidence gets you executed. Just ask Troy Davis, or Cameron Todd Willingham.

After you first posted this, Scooter, I did some exploration of the case. I do think there is reasonable doubt, and that the primary, and possibly sole, culprit has been held accountable. I can live with this outcome. In any case, Ms. Kercher's family has my deepest sympathy.

Re: The murderous cunt speaks

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:23 am
by Scooter
I certainly don't want to rehash all the evidence, because I've done that elsewhere, but a couple of points are without question - there were at least two perpetrators besides Guede, based on bloody footprints found at the scene, and one of these was a woman whose foot was the same size as Knox's, and the perpetrators had access to or were given access to the apartment, because there was no forced entry at the door and the broken window was clearly an attempt to stage a break in. So either Kercher let three people she didn't know into her apartment, or one of the other occupants let them in. Since the third roommate was out of town the entire time, that only leaves Knox to have been involved somehow. Now, whether there is reasonable doubt for the purposes of conviction is one thing, but there is no way this makes sense without Knox in the picture.

Re: The murderous cunt speaks

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:33 am
by BoSoxGal
That's a one-sided presentation; there are truly questionable aspects with regard to the forensic science employed in the case, the alleged footprint being included.

Anyway, I'll respectfully agree to disagree with you, as I like you far too much to let a murderous cunt (or not ;) ) come between us.

Re: The murderous cunt speaks

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:54 am
by liberty
Scooter wrote:

I never understood what it was about this bitch that caused portions of the U.S. media to abandon all semblance of reason and take up her cause.

Anyone who actually reviews the evidence (follow the link to the PDF attachment at the bottom of the page) as presented in its entirety in the reasoning for sentence issued by the judges in Knox's case, rather than in the distorted bits doled out my Knox's supporters and swallowed wholesale as gospel by some media outlets, could not rationally come to any other conclusion but that Knox had to be involved.


You and Michael Savage are two of a kind; he said the same thing.

Re: The murderous cunt speaks

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:06 am
by Scooter
The fact that we agree on this one issue (if indeed we do, I have not seen any statement by Savage on the Knox case which would lead me to believe this to be the case) hardly makes Michael Savage and me "two of a kind". Nor are we the only two people in the world to have come to this conclusion, that it should cause you to liken me to him in particular.

Re: The murderous cunt speaks

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:16 am
by liberty
Scooter wrote:The fact that we agree on this one issue (if indeed we do, I have not seen any statement by Savage on the Knox case which would lead me to believe this to be the case) hardly makes Michael Savage and me "two of a kind". Nor are we the only two people in the world to have come to this conclusion, that it should cause you to liken me to him in particular.
:D

Re: The murderous cunt speaks

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:40 pm
by Gob
THE family of the murdered girl was bereft; the family of the alleged murderer jubilant.

After judges in the Italian hill town of Perugia declared convicted murderer Amanda Knox not guilty on appeal, her sister Deanna said outside court: ''We're thankful that Amanda's nightmare is over. She has suffered four years for a crime she didn't commit.''

Ms Knox, 24, was flying home to Seattle last night, where she is expected to receive offers for multimillion-dollar book and movie deals about her ordeal.

TV networks are already bidding for her first interview.


Ms Knox's mother and other relatives were seen at Rome's Leonardo da Vinci Airport, where Ms Knox joined them on a flight to London before boarding a connection to the United States.

But for the family of the woman she was accused of murdering, 21-year-old Meredith Kercher, there was no joy in the legal decision that overturned Ms Knox's conviction and 26-year jail sentence.

They said in a statement: ''We respect the decision of the judges but we do not understand how the decision of the first trial could be so radically overturned. We still trust the Italian justice system and hope that the truth will eventually emerge.''

The prosecutor Giuliano Mignini vowed an appeal to Italy's highest criminal court.

''Let's wait and we will see who was right. The first court or the appeal court,'' Mr Mignini said.

''This trial was done under unacceptable media pressure. The decision was almost already announced; this is not normal.'' If the highest court overturns the acquittal, prosecutors could request Ms Knox's extradition to finish her sentence.

At an earlier media conference Ms Kercher's sister Stephanie said the ''brutal murder'' was being overlooked: ''Meredith has been hugely forgotten.'' Her brother Lyle said: ''It is very hard to find forgiveness at this time. Four years is a very long time but on the other hand it is still raw.''

Judges also acquitted Ms Knox's alleged partner in crime, her Italian former boyfriend, Raffaele Sollecito. The two had been convicted of raping and murdering Ms Kercher, an English exchange student, in the bedroom of a cottage the two women shared in Perugia in 2007.

The case sparked lurid language and an almost lascivious fascination inside and outside Italy's justice system.

Judges have yet to give their reasoning but it is thought they relied on experts who testified the original investigation had been botched, with more than 50 errors in the handling of DNA evidence. The two judges, sitting with a six-person jury, were not swayed by the venomous language of the lawyer who had painted Ms Knox as a she-devil for initially falsely blaming her employer, bar owner Patrick Lumumba, for killing Ms Kercher. Mr Lumumba was arrested and jailed for two weeks after Ms Knox claimed she had heard him enter Ms Kercher's room and then clapped her hands over her ears to muffle screams.

Mr Lumumba's lawyer told the court: ''The woman you see before you today is charming [and] angel faced … [but] she was a diabolical, demonic she-devil. She was muddy on the outside and dirty on the inside. She has two souls, the clean one you see before you, and the other.'' He also claimed: ''She is borderline. She likes alcohol, drugs and she likes wild, hot sex.''

Borderline personality is a serious psychiatric disorder involving severe mood swings, chaotic personal relationships and sometimes dissociation.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/tears-of-fr ... z1ZqcNZVSZ