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Posted: **Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:33 pm**

Treasury announces Harriet Tubman will replace Jackson on face of $20.00 bill by 2020.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/won ... ness_pop_b

(note — this is an artist's conception from 2015 when the official decision to put a woman's picture on currency was announced —
it is in no way the official or final design and should not be construed as such)

Hmm.... black and female; qualifies for double-minority status. Too bad she wasn't also physically handicapped and gay; the government would have hit the jackpot and been able to please just about everybody.

-"BB"-

Posted: **Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:42 pm**

A slave owner and architect of serial genocides of Native American peoples is being replaced with an abolitionist and humanitarian. If I were American, I know which aspect of my nation's history I would prefer to be reminded of every time I used currency.

Posted: **Wed Apr 20, 2016 7:03 pm**

From the thread topic I was worried that we were heading this way:

Posted: **Wed Apr 20, 2016 7:29 pm**

You're assuming, Scooter, that most people even think about that when they spend their money.  Most Americans cannot correctly name the portraits on all seven denominations currently in circulation, and even fewer can correctly identify the illustrations on the reverse of the bills.

Test yourself — I'll give you the denomination; you name the famous American on the front and the illustration on the rear.
(Answers included but masked — left-click and mouse over the area to the right to reveal them)

$1.00 —  George Washington — front and rear of the Great Seal of the United States
$2.00 —  Thomas Jefferson — detail of Trumbull's painting "Declaration of Independence"
$5.00 —  Abraham Lincoln — front view of the Lincoln Memorial
$10.00 —  Alexander Hamilton — front view of the US Treasury Building
$20.00 —  (currently) Andrew Jackson — north face of the White House
$50.00 —  Ulysses S. Grant — front view of the US Capitol Building
$100.00 —  Benjamin Franklin — Independence Hall in Philadelphia PA

for extra credit — officially withdrawn from circulation but some are still in the hands of collectors:
$500.00 —  William McKinley — numerals "500" superimposed on an oval panel
$1000.00 —  Grover Cleveland — the words "United States of America" and "One Thousand Dollars"

-"BB"-

Posted: **Wed Apr 20, 2016 7:39 pm**

Bicycle Bill wrote:You're assuming, Scooter, that most people even think about that when they spend their money.

You obviously cared enough about it to dismiss the change as an exercise in political correctness. If it really didn't matter to you, you wouldn't have created this thread.

Test yourself — I'll give you the denomination; you name the famous American on the front and the illustration on the rear.

I knew all of them except the back of the $500 and $1000, and I'm not even American. Was this supposed to prove something?

Posted: **Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:14 pm**

As long as it's still worth $20 it really doesn't matter to me who is on the bill.

Posted: **Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:22 pm**

I heard the movement to change the ten spot to a woman failed with the Broadway success of 'Hamilton' and It would not be until 2020 at the soonest that the 20 would be changed.

snailgate

Posted: **Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:22 pm**

Are you sure about that, Oldr?

Posted: **Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:33 pm**

Interesting -- Two "Hams" will now make one "Tubby." The Food Network will like this, I'm sure.

Posted: **Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:36 pm**

Scooter wrote:A slave owner and architect of serial genocides of Native American peoples is being replaced with an abolitionist and humanitarian. If I were American, I know which aspect of my nation's history I would prefer to be reminded of every time I used currency.

Change for the better.

AndrewD would have approved, he had a particular and well-founded loathing for Andrew Jackson.

yrs,
rubato

Posted: **Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:46 pm**

Joe Guy wrote:Are you sure about that, Oldr?

Trump would never have his picture put on the low energy, loser $20 bill...

It's not yooge enough:

Posted: **Thu Apr 21, 2016 12:06 am**

It's a long damned time coming and I don't understand why we have to wait four more years - start rolling those babies out right now!

Glad they ditched that Indian killer Jackson.

Posted: **Thu Apr 21, 2016 12:12 am**

Soon we'll be hearing about laws passed in the legislatures of southern states that will allow business to refuse to accept the new $20 bill.

Posted: **Thu Apr 21, 2016 12:13 am**

I predict that you will see a flurry of $20 bills defaced. People can always be counted upon to sink to the lowest common denominator.

Posted: **Thu Apr 21, 2016 11:49 am**

Scooter wrote:Soon we'll be hearing about laws passed in the legislatures of southern states that will allow business to refuse to accept the new $20 bill.

Posted: **Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:33 pm**

I know it's supposedly for anti-counterfeiting purposes, but I think the oversized portraits on our paper money look pretty silly.

That being said, I will not miss Jackson (nor would I miss Hamilton), and think Harriet Tubman is a good choice to be so-honored.

Posted: **Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:36 pm**

Artist JMW Turner and his painting The Fighting Temeraire will feature on the new design of the Bank of England's £20 note to enter circulation in 2020.

The English Romantic artist was chosen from a list of public nominations - the first time the Bank has asked who should appear on a specific banknote.

The note, to be made of polymer, will eventually replace the current £20 note featuring the economist Adam Smith.

The choice means all but one Bank of England banknote character will be men.

Of the five characters on banknotes by 2020, other than the Queen only Jane Austen - appearing on the £10 note from 2017 - is a woman.

The men who will feature by 2020 are Sir Winston Churchill on the £5 note who will replace campaigner Elizabeth Fry from September, Turner on the £20 note, and Matthew Boulton and James Watt remain on the £50 note.

Posted: **Sat Apr 23, 2016 1:16 am**

We walked back to the Tate Britain the next morning to spend another two hours with the Turners. Love to go back again some time.

Staggering.

Why didn't they choose a picture of him at maturity when his genius was flowing rather than as an unmarked youth?

yrs,
rubato

Posted: **Sat Apr 23, 2016 12:50 pm**

Perhaps because it's from the only self-portrait he painted?

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Posted: **Sat Apr 23, 2016 6:18 pm**

MajGenl.Meade wrote:Perhaps because it's from the only self-portrait he painted?
?

It had to be a self-portrait?

http://fineartamerica.com/featured/port ... arley.html

This would not be popular:

A little too convincingly dead. Proving that it is more important to seem than to be.

yrs,
rubato

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