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Lost and Found

Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 5:18 am
by Long Run
Cool discovery.

A Canadian schoolboy appears to have discovered a lost Mayan city hidden deep in the jungles of Mexico using a new method of matching stars to the location of temples on earth.

William Gadoury, 15, was fascinated by the ancient Central American civilization and spent hours poring over diagrams of constellations and maps of known Mayan cities.

And then he made a startling realisation: the two appeared to be linked.

“I was really surprised and excited when I realised that the most brilliant stars of the constellations matched the largest Maya cities,” he told the Journal de Montréal.

In hundreds of years of scholarship, no other scientist had ever found such a correlation.

Studying 22 different constellations, William found that they matched the location of 117 Mayan cities scattered throughout Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador.
"I was really surprised and excited when I realised that the most brilliant stars of the constellations matched the largest Maya cities"William Gadoury

When he applied his theory to a 23rd constellation, he found that two of the stars already had cities linked to them but that the third star was unmatched.

William took to Google Maps and projected that there must be another city hidden deep in the thick jungles of the Yucatan Peninsula in Mexico.

The Canadian Space Agency agreed to train its satellite telescopes on the spot and returned with striking pictures: what appears to be an ancient Mayan pyramid and dozens of smaller structures around it.

If the satellite photographs are verified, the city would be among the largest Mayan population centers ever discovered.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05 ... jungles-o/

Re: Lost and Found

Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 10:31 am
by Lord Jim
Good for him. :ok

It's kind of amazing to think that this connection had never been noticed before, especially when the central role that the constellations played in the Mayan belief system has been long known...

Re: Lost and Found

Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 11:03 am
by Crackpot
They're still finding Incan cities even though they know the pattern that thier cities were located.

Re: Lost and Found

Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 7:39 pm
by rubato
Is there a better description someplace? Something more precise? How does the map of the constellations geometrically predict the locations of Mayan cities?

If you begin with a map of the stars how is that map translated onto the earth? Do you keep the north-south alignment? How? It does not seem at all obvious to me how you would do this.


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Re: Lost and Found

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 2:18 pm
by Scooter
Or maybe not...
A Canadian teen's claimed discovery of a lost, ancient Mayan city in the middle of a Mexican jungle could actually be nothing more than a pot field, say scientists.

William Gadoury, 15, of Montreal, shot to fame this week with reports he had stumbled on what he believed to be a lost city. His theory was that the Mayans might have built their cities so they lined up with major constellations.

But the work - despite having the helping hand of the Canadian Space Agency - has not yet been peer-reviewed, and scientists who have taken a look so far have not been sold.

Although nobody has visited the remote site since the teen's find, a satellite image making the rounds online, which claims to show a possible pyramid base, is likely nothing more than a fallow corn field, say many scientists.

One such expert, Geoffrey Braswell, from the University of San Diego, believes Gadoury may have found a marijuana field. He should know: he's visited the area in the past.

"The fields may be fallow or may be active marijuana fields, which are common in the area. There is no important archaeological site there," he wrote to the Washington Post in an e-mail.

But he encouraged Gadoury to keep trying, and he hopes to see the young man apply to USC-San Diego.

Re: Lost and Found

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 4:55 pm
by BoSoxGal
How can he say authoritatively that there's no archeological site there if nobody has actually been there to survey it?

Re: Lost and Found

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 5:23 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
One such expert, Geoffrey Braswell, from the University of San Diego, believes Gadoury may have found a marijuana field. He should know: he's visited the area in the past.

Re: Lost and Found

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 5:28 pm
by BoSoxGal
I'm actually pretty good at reading comprehension. Like I noticed this phrase:
Although nobody has visited the remote site since the teen's find,
So again, while he may have visited 'the area' in the past, that doesn't mean he specifically explored this site that shows up better in aerial or satellite photography than from walking the land.

They have, in fact, discovered important archeological sites all over the world that people once walked over/by without noticing. Things get buried pretty good after thousands of years.

I'm just saying speaking so authoritatively without having actually checked something out can come back to bite one in the derrière.

Re: Lost and Found

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 5:33 pm
by Crackpot
I the jungle they get lost in years. Maccu Piccu was completely overgrown 10 years after it was first "discovered"

Re: Lost and Found

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 6:20 pm
by Long Run
I am annoyed at the crappy editorial work in that Toronto Sun Article. It says Professor Braswell is at the University of San Diego (a private Catholic college) but a quick search reveals he is at UC San Diego (i.e., the San Diego campus in the public University of California system). And then the article compounds this inaccuracy by saying Braswell encourages the teenager to attend "USC - San Diego" which is yet a third college, the San Diego academic center for the private University of Southern California. It is hard to get good help these days. :?

Re: Lost and Found

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 6:54 pm
by rubato
despite having the helping hand of the Canadian Space Agency

I'm told they have signed autographs of every single American astronaut.


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