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The Govt. Needs A Program So Peepel Won't Resort To This:
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:23 pm
by dales
Antioch: Two Arrested After Tampering with School Buses
By ECT - Mike Burkholder -
Jul 25, 2016
According to the Antioch Police Department, two people were arrested on June 16 for tampering with buses in the school parking lot on Shaddrick Drive.
Police say at 3:01 am, residents on Shaddick Drive called to report subjects tampering with the buses in the school parking lot. On arrival, officers confronted 22 year old Savannah Vetterli and 22 year old Richard Raymundo-Wilcox as they were trying to flee on foot. Both were detained without incident.
A third subject managed to flee on foot and was not located, but his truck was found nearby.
It was discovered that the 3 had been drilling the fuel tanks from parked buses and vans in the parking lot in order to get the fuel for their vehicle.
Both were booked into county jail without incident.
Re: The Govt. Needs A Program So Poeple Won't Resort To This
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:28 pm
by rubato
The last time this happened it was during the 70s fuel crises.
Yes,
Rubato
Re: The Govt. Needs A Program So Poeple Won't Resort To This
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:34 pm
by Long Run
That is when the locking gas caps became common. This story should be filed under dumb criminals.
Re: The Govt. Needs A Program So Poeple Won't Resort To This
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:58 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
Those poor poeple.
Re: The Govt. Needs A Program So People Won't Resort To This
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:17 am
by Jarlaxle
Lock them up. One count each of malicious destruction of property per bus, plus a separate count for each gallon of fuel, plus three counts of illegal disposal of toxic waste. They should be released when they are about 80 years old.
I would not oppose giving them lesser sentences if they agree to be irreversibly sterilized.
Re: The Govt. Needs A Program So People Won't Resort To This
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:39 am
by dales
I posted this to illustrate what "life in the 'hood" is like.
I lived there for nearly 7 years and to me Antioch, CA will always be a hard-luck-town. This in NO WAY reflects upon the many fine and law-abiding people who reside there.
Re: The Govt. Needs A Program So People Won't Resort To This
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:51 am
by BoSoxGal
Jarlaxle wrote:Lock them up. One count each of malicious destruction of property per bus, plus a separate count for each gallon of fuel, plus three counts of illegal disposal of toxic waste. They should be released when they are about 80 years old.
I would not oppose giving them lesser sentences if they agree to be irreversibly sterilized.
Who pissed in your cereal this morning?
Re: The Govt. Needs A Program So Peepel Won't Resort To This
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:15 am
by Crackpot
I think he pisses In his own cerial just to get that special misanthropy we've all come to know and love.
Re: The Govt. Needs A Program So Peepel Won't Resort To This
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:20 am
by MajGenl.Meade
Snap, crackle, and p
Re: The Govt. Needs A Program So People Won't Resort To This
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:04 pm
by Lord Jim
Jarlaxle wrote:Lock them up. One count each of malicious destruction of property per bus, plus a separate count for each gallon of fuel, plus three counts of illegal disposal of toxic waste. They should be released when they are about 80 years old.
I would not oppose giving them lesser sentences if they agree to be irreversibly sterilized.
Gee Jarl, you're turning into a real softie in your old age...
That's one of the things I really like about having you on this board...
You make
me look like a thug hugger...
Re: The Govt. Needs A Program So Peepel Won't Resort To This
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:39 pm
by rubato
People who do this kind of thing are so often addicted smokers and prone to carelessness about fire safety that they enlighten themselves.
Life is rich with opportunities for learning.
Yrs,
Rubato
Re: The Govt. Needs A Program So Peepel Won't Resort To This
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:02 pm
by BoSoxGal
Okay, I tolerated the statement that this kind of thing hasn't happened since the 70s oil crises [sic], but now with the addition of that assertion, I just gotta say, WTF?
When gas was a dollar more expensive than it is now, we had regular reports of siphoned gas tanks coming into the PD. Unless caught red handed or on security surveillance tape, it's pretty much an unsolvable crime. I'm quite sure some people do it even when gas is relatively cheap. And like all other thefts, some are from necessity - but many are just because they can.
I have no idea how you would be able to prove the second assertion.
Re: The Govt. Needs A Program So Peepel Won't Resort To This
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:06 pm
by dales
SOP for Antioch, the stuff that goes on in that town defies logic.
Re: The Govt. Needs A Program So People Won't Resort To This
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:04 pm
by Jarlaxle
BoSoxGal wrote:Jarlaxle wrote:Lock them up. One count each of malicious destruction of property per bus, plus a separate count for each gallon of fuel, plus three counts of illegal disposal of toxic waste. They should be released when they are about 80 years old.
I would not oppose giving them lesser sentences if they agree to be irreversibly sterilized.
Who pissed in your cereal this morning?
I make a living driving. Getting a fuel tank punched could put a company OUT OF BUSINESS OVERNIGHT. Read that carefully: that could destroy someone's life forever.
Re: The Govt. Needs A Program So Peepel Won't Resort To This
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:27 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
I fixed more than one leaking gas tank with a sheet metal screw and a faucet washer.
Of course a more permanent repair was made later, but in a pinch, it worked.
I would guess the size of the holes these guys were making would not lend itself to that solution.
Re: The Govt. Needs A Program So Peepel Won't Resort To This
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:29 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
We used to syphon some gas when were were teens. Not because gas was expensive, (only $0.50/gallon IIRC) but because we needed all our cash for beer/booze.
Re: The Govt. Needs A Program So People Won't Resort To This
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:54 pm
by BoSoxGal
Jarlaxle wrote:BoSoxGal wrote:Jarlaxle wrote:Lock them up. One count each of malicious destruction of property per bus, plus a separate count for each gallon of fuel, plus three counts of illegal disposal of toxic waste. They should be released when they are about 80 years old.
I would not oppose giving them lesser sentences if they agree to be irreversibly sterilized.
Who pissed in your cereal this morning?
I make a living driving. Getting a fuel tank punched could put a company OUT OF BUSINESS OVERNIGHT. Read that carefully: that could destroy someone's life forever.
We don't sentence people to life for petty theft, Jarl. (Except under horrible examples of the '3 strikes you're out' laws gone awry.)
Any business that is operating
that close to utter failure has bigger problems overall. What if the brakes fail? What if there's engine trouble? Out of business overnight, huh?
Business insurance - it's a good thing to have. Savings for necessary costs of operating the business, like repairing vehicles - it's a good thing to have.
I like you Jarl, but I think you are overreacting.
Re: The Govt. Needs A Program So Poeple Won't Resort To This
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 4:23 am
by MGMcAnick
rubato wrote:The last time this happened it was during the 70s fuel crises.
Yes,
Rubato
It still happens, obviously more often than you'd believe. It's even happened to me, and not in a bad neighborhood.
My Questions: Did the buses have diesel engines? If so, was the truck they were stealing the fuel for also a diesel?
It would have made the third guy easy to catch if he misfueled it.
Back in the '30s and '40s, there were a lot of farm tractors that ran on what they called petroleum distillate. It was close to kerosene as far as volatility is concerned. The tractors were started on gasoline from a small tank, and switched over to distillate once they were warm. One time my grandfather's tractor had some distillate siphoned from its large tank. It didn't take long to find out which neighbor boy's car wouldn't start.
Re: The Govt. Needs A Program So Peepel Won't Resort To This
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:18 am
by rubato
Jarlaxle wrote:BoSoxGal wrote:Jarlaxle wrote:Lock them up. One count each of malicious destruction of property per bus, plus a separate count for each gallon of fuel, plus three counts of illegal disposal of toxic waste. They should be released when they are about 80 years old.
I would not oppose giving them lesser sentences if they agree to be irreversibly sterilized.
Who pissed in your cereal this morning?
I make a living driving. Getting a fuel tank punched could put a company OUT OF BUSINESS OVERNIGHT. Read that carefully: that could destroy someone's life forever.
Gas tanks are cheap and easily replaced. You'd have to be pretty inept, or your "business" be pretty marginal to be shut down forever by a little thing like that.
Yrs,
Rubato
Re: The Govt. Needs A Program So People Won't Resort To This
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:22 am
by Jarlaxle
BoSoxGal wrote:Jarlaxle wrote:
I make a living driving. Getting a fuel tank punched could put a company OUT OF BUSINESS OVERNIGHT. Read that carefully: that could destroy someone's life forever.
We don't sentence people to life for petty theft, Jarl. (Except under horrible examples of the '3 strikes you're out' laws gone awry.)
Any business that is operating
that close to utter failure has bigger problems overall. What if the brakes fail? What if there's engine trouble? Out of business overnight, huh?
Business insurance - it's a good thing to have. Savings for necessary costs of operating the business, like repairing vehicles - it's a good thing to have.
I like you Jarl, but I think you are overreacting.
No, not petty theft...
illegal disposal of toxic waste! Reread the post: they DRILLED HOLES in the fuel tanks! When they were done, I'm sure thay didn't patch them...no, they let what fuel they didn't take drain on the ground! Bearing in mind that a truck can hold 100+ gallons, that will not be a small cleanup.