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You're ugly

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 12:46 am
by Gob
Comedian Mike Ward has just been fined $42,000 by the Quebec Human Rights Tribunal for a comic riff at the expense of Jérémy Gabriel, a young disabled singer, which culminated in the line: “I didn’t know what illness he had, so I Googled it and it turns out he’s just ugly.” Ward is incensed by the ruling and has responded with an Edinburgh fringe show, entitled “Freedom of Speech Isn’t Free”. Neither is putting on an Edinburgh fringe show, if memory serves me right. If I were his bank manager, I’d text him the first rule of holes.

It’s ironic that Ward’s joke has been broadcast so much more widely as a result of the tribunal’s ruling
There’s a strange reverse-libel system at work when it comes to insults to people’s appearance. It’s not lies that people mind, it’s honesty. If you call a beautiful person ugly, no one much cares – it just reflects badly on your eyesight. It’s saying it when it’s true that’s taboo. Echoing the unexpressed thought in others’ minds is what gives greatest offence. To a person who’s been called ugly, the louder the offended clamour against the insult, the greater the implied endorsement of the insulter’s opinion.

Which isn’t to say that the Quebec Human Rights Tribunal secretly shares Ward’s view of Gabriel’s appearance. The tribunal is a body dedicated to stamping out unfair discrimination, and its judgment, as expressed by Justice Scott Hughes, is that “The discrimination that Jérémy fell victim to is unjustifiable.” Jérémy himself has claimed that Ward’s riff “made me think my life is worth less than another’s because I’m handicapped”.

So it’s the fact that Jérémy Gabriel is disabled that makes insulting him unlawful, according to the tribunal. Which, as Ward has pointed out himself, sounds a bit discriminatory in itself. So it’s fine to insult someone without a disability, but a disabled person can’t take it? They have to be given an easy ride, a life of patronising compliments. It all sounds a bit “Does he take sugar?” and unlikely to result in a marked increase in the number of wheelchair-using CEOs.

Re: You're ugly

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 4:23 pm
by Long Run
Sounds like the "comedian" is the only ugly one in this story, but being panned versus being fined is just one difference of being a few miles north of the border.

Re: You're ugly

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 5:42 pm
by rubato
$42,000 fine?

No wonder those Canucks are so goddamn polite.

I thought it was kindness and good manners but it was fear all along.


yrs,
rubato

Re: You're ugly

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 9:31 pm
by Lord Jim
It can be really expensive to be an asshole in Canada...

Re: You're ugly

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:18 pm
by MGMcAnick
Well, he's not particularly handsome, but I'd hesitate to call him ugly.

He is a fairly decent singer, especially considering that he was deaf.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaWvxo7cHf0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A9r%C3%A9my_Gabriel

Re: You're ugly

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 12:24 am
by Econoline
rubato wrote:$42,000 fine?

No wonder those Canucks are so goddamn polite.

I thought it was kindness and good manners but it was fear all along.


yrs,
rubato
:funee:

Re: You're ugly

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 1:52 am
by MajGenl.Meade
I think the chap should get a second opinion

Re: You're ugly

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 2:46 am
by Lord Jim
MajGenl.Meade wrote:I think the chap should get a second opinion
Okay, he's scrawny too...

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