Plan B Forum

Thanks for the, uh, compassionate good wishes.

I was out of town for a few days visiting mon pere and just got back this afternoon. The fire appears to be burning towards the east of Loma Prieta at the moment but any fire in the SC mountains is a bad thing.


We might get some rain next Tuesday which will also help the Sobranes fire which has been burning since July 22nd and they don't expect it to be out, until it rains.

Might as well kill off all of those coastal redwoods all at once now and not have to wait until climate change does a slow death on them.

yrs,
rubato

stupid islamists....


....won t be happy til the world s a desert.

mordor makers.....

wesw wrote:stupid islamists....

....won t be happy til the world s a desert.

mordor makers.....

What do Islamists have to do with wildfires in California?
Maybe you're the one speedballing between Valium and coke these days.

-"BB"-

Maybe he thinks it's Burkaley

MajGenl.Meade wrote:Maybe he thinks it's Burkaley

Use of the word "think" would be your first error. And "barks like a trained seal" is insulting to the poor seals.

What do Islamists have to do with wildfires in California?

Don't try to sort out Trumpanzee reasoning...

It will just make your eyebrows ache...trust me on this ...

burkaley.....

hee hee hee....

....like the mighty cedars of Lebanon.

what a shame, I ve never seen a redwood.

Packard, 1921 or '22. It's the scalloped headlights that give it away
When I was a kid, I had a neighbor who had a service station in the middle of nowhere. One day, about 1960, a young lady coasted into the station in a 1921 Packard touring car similar to the one going through the redwood in the picture. It had thrown a rod. The girl had inherited the car from her grandfather in southern California and was about half way home to Florida. Unfortunately no one had bothered to tell her anything about maintaining a 39 year old car on a cross country trip. He bought her a bus ticket home in exchange for the car. Once he replaced the engine with one he'd found n a salvage yard and overhauled, he undertook a complete restoration. It became a nice addition to his collection. I also remember a 1908 EMF, and an Oakland of early '20s vintage. There were perhaps a dozen others.

I remember reading something, many years ago, about redwoods needing fire to burst their seeds free from their cones.

if true, perhaps all is not lost if we leave the burned areas undeveloped.

wesw wrote:I remember reading something, many years ago, about redwoods needing fire to burst their seeds free from their cones.

if true, perhaps all is not lost if we leave the burned areas undeveloped.

The scrub pines in the Long Islands pine barrens need fire to reseed.

wesw wrote:I remember reading something, many years ago, about redwoods needing fire to burst their seeds free from their cones.

if true, perhaps all is not lost if we leave the burned areas undeveloped.

There are species of evergreen who need fire to open their cones. I don't believe it's true of redwoods. They reproduce both sexually and vegetatively.


yrs,
rubato

well..., I ve done a small amount of research and it seems that the sierra, or giant, redwood cone does open immediately after a fire.

the coast redwood, I m not so sure. I found numerous accounts that say they benefit from fire because they can survive fire whereas their competitors cannot. I did not, however , find direct reference to their cones being opened by fire, though their cones are apparently similar to those of the giant redwood.

I read that the giant sequoia (and possibly the redwood) depends on fire not so much to free or release its seeds but because the tree itself is shade-averse and requires open sunlight to germinate and sprout.  Wildfires knock down much of the existing canopy, allowing the sunlight a clear and unhindered path to the ground.

-"BB"-

Everything needs its own room to grow.

I have some confidence that redwoods will outlive humans on this planet; botany is freaking amazing and seeds can germinate after millennia in dormancy.

The planet will be lovely once again when the plague of Homo sapiens has been purged.