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More Nonsense At UC Berkeley -or- Coloreds Only

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:31 pm
by dales
Students trying to get to class were barred from walking through UC Berkeley's Sather Gate by a wall of activist students protesting for "safe spaces."

More than 100 protesters shouted "Go around!" at approaching students but opened up to allow students who wanted to join the protest to pass during Friday's demonstration, the latest spasm of activism on campus.

Many students detoured around the bridge at Sather Gate and crossed Strawberry Creek without much hardship.

A video posted on YouTube by Diego Reyes claimed that white students were prevented from passing through the gate but students of color were allowed through.

But UC Berkeley Assistant Vice Chancellor Dan Mogulof said that race and ethnicity played no role in who was allowed to cross the line. [bullshyt!]

"Simply put, no one, of any ethnicity, was allowed to pass except for one or two individuals who asked to join the protest itself," Mogulof wrote in an email.

The activist students carried banners urging students to "Fight 4 Spaces of Color" at the university — which they already have. But according to the Daily Californian, they don't like their current space at Eshelman Hall and are demanding relocation. Unfortunately, the three alternatives proposed by the university were deemed unsatisfactory by the students.

The protesters are also seeking "safe spaces" for transgender students. They say student-run sanctuaries to recruit and retain students of color and provide support for the LGBTQIA+ student community are "invaluable and must be affirmed by the university."

LGBQIA+ stands for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans, Queer, Intersex and Asexuality. The "+" symbol encompasses all other sexualities, sexes and genders not previously mentioned.

The blockade at Sather Gate lasted for about two hours before students moved the protest to the Martin Luther King Jr. Student Union, which they says infringes upon their safe spaces.

The students posted "a notice of eviction" on the building declaring: "You are hereby notified by the students of the University of California, Berkeley to vacate the premises immediately. University administration wrongly allocated this two-story facility to a third-party corporations, keeping in line with its intensifying legacy of prioritizing financial profit over student needs."

"The notice continued, "This space expansion is one step in an ongoing process to remedy the historical devaluation of students of color and LGBTQIA+ students."

Earlier last week students rallied at the Dean of Students office and occupied the Student Store.

Re: More Nonsense At UC Berkeley -or- Coloreds Only

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:49 pm
by Scooter
A video posted on YouTube by Diego Reyes claimed that white students were prevented from passing through the gate but students of color were allowed through.
Any evidence?














(crickets)














Didn't think so.

Re: More Nonsense At UC Berkeley -or- Coloreds Only

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:24 pm
by rubato
the main RW strategy:

Make shit up.

Call it "evidence".


See Breitbart, Coulter et al.

Re: More Nonsense At UC Berkeley -or- Coloreds Only

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:29 pm
by dales
Scooter don't make such a copulating jackass out of yourself, it's quite unbecoming.


Re: More Nonsense At UC Berkeley -or- Coloreds Only

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:30 pm
by dales
rubato wrote:the main RW strategy:

Make shit up.

Call it "evidence".


See Breitbart, Coulter et al.

Blow it out your backside, Richard.

I dunno how Marge puts up with you! :lol:

Re: More Nonsense At UC Berkeley -or- Coloreds Only

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:25 am
by Scooter
So I watched the entire thing through. There was absolutely nothing to suggest that only white people were being blocked from passing and only people of colour were being let through. In fact, when they shifted the view to the path that students were using to get around the blockade, there were people of all colours using it, which should only have been true if people of all colours had been blocked from passing the regular way.

Thank you for making my point for me.

Re: More Nonsense At UC Berkeley -or- Coloreds Only

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:50 am
by dales
Scooter wrote: In fact, when they shifted the view to the path that students were using to get around the blockade.


And thanks for making my point for me by admitting that non-colored students were blocked and had to go around. :ok

Re: More Nonsense At UC Berkeley -or- Coloreds Only

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:18 am
by Scooter
No. The video showed that students of ALL colours were using the alternate path to get around the blockade. Try moving your lips when reading it this time.

Re: More Nonsense At UC Berkeley -or- Coloreds Only

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:41 am
by dales
Scooter wrote:No. The video showed that students of ALL colours were using the alternate path to get around the blockade. Try moving your lips when reading it this time.
Try reading for comprehension this time!

Blockade?

Get it?

Re: More Nonsense At UC Berkeley -or- Coloreds Only

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:48 am
by Scooter
Are you fucking hammered, or what?

You alleged that only white students were being stopped at the blockade, but that non-white students were being let through.

The video shows students of all colours having to use the detour around the blockade, because students of EVERY FUCKING COLOUR OF THE RAINBOW WERE BEING STOPPED BY THE BLOCKADE, NOT JUST WHITES.

Is it finally getting through, or would a diagram help?

Re: More Nonsense At UC Berkeley -or- Coloreds Only

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:50 am
by Joe Guy
I don't understand the protest. What is "safe space" and what's wrong with the space they have and the three other spaces they were offered and refused to take?

I'm going to start my own protest movement. I'll call it WART WORM.

[We Are Real Tired of Whining Offended Raging Millennials]

Let's March!!!

'If you want to be a hero, then just follow me!!!!'

Re: More Nonsense At UC Berkeley -or- Coloreds Only

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 4:38 am
by dales
Yeah, ppl like scoots and other millennials need a safe space from themselves! :lol:

Re: More Nonsense At UC Berkeley -or- Coloreds Only

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:00 am
by MajGenl.Meade
Yes and all this obscures the real point which is that these blockaders need a heavy dose of tear gas, rubber bullets and arrests. How dare they obstruct pathways available for all? Fascist scum!

Re: More Nonsense At UC Berkeley -or- Coloreds Only

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:27 pm
by Big RR
these blockaders need a heavy dose of tear gas, rubber bullets and arrests
For what? Expressing their frustration making people take a few extra steps? I agree that "blockade" has to be stopped and scattered, but there is no indication of anyone being hurt. Yet you say they deserve tear gas and rubber bullets? And you call them Fascists?

Re: More Nonsense At UC Berkeley -or- Coloreds Only

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:32 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
MajGenl.Meade wrote:Yes and all this obscures the real point which is that these blockaders need a heavy dose of tear gas, rubber bullets and arrests. How dare they obstruct pathways available for all? Fascist scum!
Amen other than the "Fascist scum" part, I don't like to call names.
Public place should be open to the general public.
School space should be open to all students who attend, not blocked off by some group or another whatever the reason.

Re: More Nonsense At UC Berkeley -or- Coloreds Only

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 2:01 pm
by Scooter
If that had been the point that had been made, there could have been some legitimacy to it.

Someone felt the need to turn it into a "look how these poor white boys and girls are being oppressed" whine fest, however, and that point was lost.

Re: More Nonsense At UC Berkeley -or- Coloreds Only

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 2:16 pm
by Big RR
Every picket line I have ever seen blocked or restricted access to somewhere, it's the nature of protest; hell, every parade does that as well. it doesn't mean they are are "fascist scum", nor does it mean they should be assaulted with tear gas and rubber bullets. From the post, it seems like some students were inconvenienced for only two hours (and there was another way to the same place without too much inconvenience), and the protesters were moved to another area without the firing of a single tear gas canister or rubber bullet.

Protest is a time honored right in the US, and while I don't know what their goals are, I will not call them fascist scum or assault them for exercising that right.

Re: More Nonsense At UC Berkeley -or- Coloreds Only

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 4:13 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
Picket lines are required to keep moving and they are not permitted to "block" access to anything - be it Walmart, an abortion clinic or the local whore house. They block illegally.

Best would be if the blocked students themselves (the majority) formed a column and lit into 'em. Better yet - expulsion by the school

That should larn 'em

Re: More Nonsense At UC Berkeley -or- Coloreds Only

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 5:12 pm
by Bicycle Bill
Blockading a gate.  Why do I have a mental image of a group of students standing abreast, arms linked, across the walkway?

And then a game of "Red Rover, Red Rover" breaks out. :lol:
Image
-"BB"-

Re: More Nonsense At UC Berkeley -or- Coloreds Only

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:05 pm
by dales
Scooter wrote:If that had been the point that had been made, there could have been some legitimacy to it.

Someone felt the need to turn it into a "look how these poor white boys and girls are being oppressed" whine fest, however, and that point was lost.
It was lost on you, sorry to say. :lol:

http://www.breitbart.com/california/201 ... g-through/