Plan B Forum

Some government leaders actually know what Pi is, and promote science and jobs in science. From Justin Trudeau's twitter feed today:

http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/013.nsf/eng/home

One of my goals is to encourage more young women to be curious, to challenge the norm and be fearless in their pursuit of their dreams. Take every exciting opportunity that comes your way. Choose to be curious. Choose science.

He knows how to play his target audience, doesn't he?

Gob wrote:He knows how to play his target audience, doesn't he?

Constantly.

There actually ARE feminist men in this world.

Clearly an unimaginable concept to many of the men on this board; but nevertheless they exist.

There actually ARE feminist men in this world.

And masculine women.

Those feminist men walk kinda swishy....

You guys are stupid. And not funny.

There are also clever politicians.

BoSoxGal wrote:You guys are stupid. And not funny.

BoSoxGal wrote:You guys are stupid. And not funny.

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To assist everyone in this mammoth task, pi will be rounded off to 3.

It's casual pi-day

Gob wrote:He knows how to play his target audience, doesn't he?

"Play" assumes he is insincere and his audience uninformed, and/or able to be manipulated. Is that what you're trying to say?

Even informed audiences can be manipulated 9or gently steered in the "correct" direction) if the speaker uses the right words; that's kind of what Abe Lincoln said. sure, it doesn't work all the time, but I've seen it work more often than I'd like. I recall how the antiwar protests of the 60s/70s turned violent, often by the right speaker "playing" to the audience, first to shout down any other speakers, and then to rise up and show them we mean business. Many in the protests were well-informed, and many/most abhorred violence, but appealing to the anger worked (and it eventually drove me from much of the movement).

I'm more interested in why the hostility towards Trudeau. Or his "audience."

When I was going for my bsee degree, I can distinctly remember only 3 females persuing an electrical engineering degree during that time. And of those three, only one stuck it out and graduated with that degree.

In Computer Science (aka software at the time) there were more, but not anywhere near 50/50.

Canada suffered one of the most horrific & notorious femicides in moderns times related to women in the sciences - an event which doubtless had an impact on Trudeau's developing world view.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89c ... e_massacre

I've read extensive excerpts from Trudeau's memoir Common Ground and he is definitely a feminist.

Comments suggesting that feminist men are feminine, etc. are stupid.

Back in the day when I was in school, the Double E (electrical engineering) degree was considered the absolute hardest to get. One brother-in-law has one from the Missouri School of Mines. Another brother-in-law has one from University of Oklahoma. My wife wanted one, but her parents said absolutely not, that is NOT for females.

snailgate

OK, the Rockies *win* Pi Day (yes, this is even better than Justin Trudeau):

BoSoxGal wrote: Comments suggesting that feminist men are feminine, etc. are stupid.

Oh yeah?

Have you ever seen a feminine female masculinist?

Guinevere wrote:OK, the Rockies *win* Pi Day (yes, this is even better than Justin Trudeau):

Nice!