Nineteen people have been killed and about 50 injured in a blast at Manchester Arena, police have said.
Witnesses said they heard two loud bangs, reported to be in the foyer, after a pop concert by Ariana Grande.
Greater Manchester Police said there are a "number of confirmed fatalities and others injured".
The cause of the explosion is unknown but the North West Counter Terrorism Unit is treating it as a possible terrorist incident.
BBC Home Affairs Correspondent Daniel Sandford said senior counter-terrorism officers are assembling in London and are liaising with the Home Office.
He said early estimates put the number of fatalities in double figures, although these are not confirmed.
Manchester Victoria station, which is close to the concert venue, has been closed and all trains cancelled. British Transport Police say explosion was in the foyer area of Manchester Arena.
Explosion in Manchester
Explosion in Manchester
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Explosion in Manchester
19 Dead... 59 Injured.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... story.html
I have quite a few relatives who live in, and around, Manchester. Some have "tween" and young teen children -- Grande's core audience. If any of them and their kids were involved I'm sure I would have heard from them by now. Regardless, I'm hoping they'll get in touch later this morning to fill me in.
Fucking terrorists.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... story.html
I have quite a few relatives who live in, and around, Manchester. Some have "tween" and young teen children -- Grande's core audience. If any of them and their kids were involved I'm sure I would have heard from them by now. Regardless, I'm hoping they'll get in touch later this morning to fill me in.
Fucking terrorists.
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Now reporting 22 dead, and a suicide bomber responsible..
Utter pieces of shit.
Utter pieces of shit.
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An unspeakably vile attack...
The greatest loss of life from a terrorist attack on British soil since the 2005 London bombings...
Targeting teens and tweens at a concert...the lowest scum of the earth....
The greatest loss of life from a terrorist attack on British soil since the 2005 London bombings...
Targeting teens and tweens at a concert...the lowest scum of the earth....
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My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and the UK as a whole.
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At the moment the Telegraph is reporting that the perpetrator is a Libyan 22 year old, born in the UK and whose parents escaped Gaddhafi's Libya.
Not trying to defend Gaddhafi, but when I lived in Libya in the late seventies (Gaddhafi had been in power for 10 years by then) the Libyan people I knew were the most generous I have ever known anywhere; I knew Libyan women as friends; the burkha/hijab was unknown; and I could walk around Benghazi at night with less trepidation than I might have in London.
Madmen come in all shapes and sizes and countries of origin.
Not trying to defend Gaddhafi, but when I lived in Libya in the late seventies (Gaddhafi had been in power for 10 years by then) the Libyan people I knew were the most generous I have ever known anywhere; I knew Libyan women as friends; the burkha/hijab was unknown; and I could walk around Benghazi at night with less trepidation than I might have in London.
Madmen come in all shapes and sizes and countries of origin.
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And religions.ex-khobar Andy wrote:At the moment the Telegraph is reporting that the perpetrator is a Libyan 22 year old, born in the UK and whose parents escaped Gaddhafi's Libya.
Not trying to defend Gaddhafi, but when I lived in Libya in the late seventies (Gaddhafi had been in power for 10 years by then) the Libyan people I knew were the most generous I have ever known anywhere; I knew Libyan women as friends; the burkha/hijab was unknown; and I could walk around Benghazi at night with less trepidation than I might have in London.
Madmen come in all shapes and sizes and countries of origin.
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A special place in hell awaits those responsible.Lord Jim wrote:An unspeakably vile attack...
Targeting teens and tweens at a concert...the lowest scum of the earth....
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Yeah, I'm sick of those Shinto suicide bombers. Not to mention the Hindu, the Catholics, the atheists, the Jains; the Buddhists, and the Baptists and the Jews.Guinevere wrote:And religions.ex-khobar Andy wrote:At the moment the Telegraph is reporting that the perpetrator is a Libyan 22 year old, born in the UK and whose parents escaped Gaddhafi's Libya.
Not trying to defend Gaddhafi, but when I lived in Libya in the late seventies (Gaddhafi had been in power for 10 years by then) the Libyan people I knew were the most generous I have ever known anywhere; I knew Libyan women as friends; the burkha/hijab was unknown; and I could walk around Benghazi at night with less trepidation than I might have in London.
Madmen come in all shapes and sizes and countries of origin.
Oh... hold on a second....
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Neither Andy nor I said "suicide bomber," of course. Words. Matter.
But your response was exactly as expected.
But your response was exactly as expected.
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Most of the terrorist acts in the US are committed by white Christian males, Meade.
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Well, it's a bit parochial to restrict one's observations to the USA, no?BoSoxGal wrote:Most of the terrorist acts in the US are committed by white Christian males, Meade.
It is tautological to state that insanity occurs in all races, creeds, religions, sexual orientations etc etc. So do anger, love, epilepsy and dirty bums.
The subject of the thread is a terrorist bombing in Manchester (UK last I noticed) and the word "religions" is tossed in to mitigate the actual fact of the purpose of the majority of mass terrorist killings which are perpetrated (as we all know) by Martians. While there are insane people claiming to be of any and all religions, not to mention irreligion, not all terrorist acts, nor even the majority, are conducted by people on behalf of the other world religions that they cite as the justified cause of their acts.
Far less are they conducted by white males and even less are they conducted in the USA.
So yes - the carpet-bombing of "all religions" in response to a typical terrorist act of the usual suspects was indeed both predictable and expected.
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It has just been confirmed that my sister in law's next door neighbour and her freind were killed in the attack.
He' wasn't a muslim... the muslim community gave taxi rides for free, tended the wounds of the injured and dying, made tea, coffee, burgers and kebabs for the emergency services that worked through the night.
He wasn't a muslim... he was a monstrous cunt.
He' wasn't a muslim... the muslim community gave taxi rides for free, tended the wounds of the injured and dying, made tea, coffee, burgers and kebabs for the emergency services that worked through the night.
He wasn't a muslim... he was a monstrous cunt.
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Hugs to you, Daisy.
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An open letter from The Peoples Republic of Mancunia
LOVE MCREe-arr Terrorism,
Last night you deliberately attacked a children’s concert in our great city, Manchester. You you should know that we don’t condone that sort of shit here regardless of our age, race, religion, sex or sexual preference.
You see, when a disgraceful excuse of a human-being attacks our city (let alone a children’s concert you evil, despicable vermin), we do not turn on each other.
You sought to divide us, but your only achievement was bringing us together and making us stronger than ever, today our city was one, and we flipped you and your barbaric ideology the V’s – BIG TIME!
Mancunian means Mancunian, and we will not turn on Muslims anymore than we turned on the Irish in ‘96. You’re scum, not Muslim, that clear yeah?
Mate, we’ve got JD bags older than your terrorist bullshit, and the Manchester Muslim community showed you in the firmest possible way that you DO NOT represent them!
Our Muslim Mancunian brothers and sisters worked through the night around the clock with us. Taxi drivers gave up their night’s pay to transport the stranded home safely, free of charge without any hesitation.
Restaurant owners flung open their doors to create a refuge to help those families cut off from each other to reunite.
And everyday members of the public opened their doors and offered people a safe place to stay, drove into town to offer lifts home for those stranded, whilst others and have queued around the block all day and caused websites to crash to give blood.
NEVER forgetting, of course, as always our emergency services were epic in the face of adversity.
Our community spirit is stronger than any hatred you could hope to poison us with. We embrace multiculturalism better than anywhere else in the world, we’re proud of it, we’ve been doing it for years you muppet, and you probably should have done your homework a bit better.
This is Manchester. We do things differently here – Anthony H Wilson
In a bit knob ‘ed,
The People's Republic of Mancunia
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So Britain takes in his family, and gives him and them all the advantages and comforts that the UK provides, and this is how he pays us back.Abedi was born in Manchester on New Year's Eve 1994 to a family believed to be of Libyan origin, the BBC understands.
His parents escaped to Britain as refugees from Libya.
It is thought he has at least three siblings - an elder brother who was born in London, and a younger brother and sister who were born in Manchester.
He went to local schools, was a supporter of Manchester United football team and worked in a bakery.
Abedi is thought to have recently travelled abroad.
Salford University confirmed Abedi had been a student there and said it was assisting police with their inquiries.
A trustee of the Manchester Islamic Centre, also known as the Didsbury Mosque, told the Press Association it was likely Abedi had attended there.
Fawaz Haffar said Abedi's father used to perform the call for prayer at the mosque, and one of his brothers had been a volunteer there.
Mr Haffar stressed the mosque was what he called a moderate, modern, liberal mosque, and he is a member of an organisation liaising with police, the Independent Advisory Group.
Please note; this is about HIM no one else.
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http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/ ... e-imminentUK Raises Threat Level To 'Critical'; Attack 'May Be Imminent'
One day after a bombing claimed at least 22 lives at a concert venue in Manchester, England, Prime Minister Theresa May has announced that the U.K. is raising its terror threat level. The move, declared Tuesday evening, means members of the British military will be deployed throughout the country to supplement its police forces.
"It is a possibility we cannot ignore that there is a wider group of individuals linked to this attack," May said. "It is now concluded, on the basis of today's investigations, that the threat level should be increased for the time being — from 'severe' to 'critical.' "
She added: "This means that their assessment is not only that an attack remains highly likely, but that an attack may be imminent."
The announcement comes just hours after police identified a suspect — 22-year-old Salman Abedi — and ISIS claimed responsibility for the bombing. Greater Manchester Police also announced Tuesday that they had "arrested a 23-year-old man" in connection with Monday's bombing.
In addition to at least one arrest, police tweeted Tuesday that they've "executed warrants, one in Whalley Range, and one in Fallowfield, where a controlled explosion took place." Those areas are next to each other, roughly 5 miles south of Manchester Arena. No further information was released about the activity.
The BBC reports this is only the third time the U.K. has reached the highest terror threat level under its alert system — and the first since 2007.
In her brief speech Tuesday, May said the police request for military support "is part of a well-established plan known as Operation Tempora, in which both the armed forces and the police officers involved are well-trained and well-prepared to work in this kind of environment."
She laid out what to expect from the operation:
"This means that armed police officers responsible for guarding key sites will be replaced by members of the armed forces, which will allow the police to significantly increase the number of armed officers on patrol in key locations.
"You might also see military personnel deployed at certain events such as concerts and sports matches, helping the police to keep the public safe. In all circumstances, members of the armed forces who are deployed in this way will be under the command of police officers."
It seems to me that while it's possible that this dirtbag acted alone, the odds very much against it. There are some exceptions, but the history of these sorts of attacks overall show that when you have a shrapnel dispersal explosive devise this well designed, (and the number of deaths and injuries caused demonstrates that it had to be well designed) the bomb maker and the bomb deliverer are different people. (Bomb making pros are too valuable to be used for cannon fodder.)
When an amateur has attempted to build a device of this capability and lethality more often then not it has blown up in their face before they ever got to their target location.