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Today Puerto Rico will vote on statehood

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:41 pm
by liberty
Today Puerto Rico will vote on statehood. If they do vote for statehood that does not mean they automatically get it; the next step would be for Congress to grant statehood by a majority vote. But should they get statehood? Puerto Rico is different than other territories; I know of no other territory that carried on an insurgency against he US for independence. What if they should gain statehood and the then later decide they want independence; what do we do then, sent troops to kill Puerto Ricans?

Re: Today Puerto Rico will vote on statehood

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 6:22 pm
by rubato
already under discussion here:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17768

Re: Today Puerto Rico will vote on statehood

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 8:45 pm
by liberty
rubato wrote:already under discussion here:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17768
Where, I can't do links, I am not smart enough.

Re: Today Puerto Rico will vote on statehood

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 8:50 pm
by liberty
liberty wrote:
rubato wrote:already under discussion here:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17768
Where, I can't do links, I am not smart enough.
Never mind; I found it.

Re: Today Puerto Rico will vote on statehood

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:25 pm
by Bicycle Bill
liberty wrote:What if they should gain statehood and the then later decide they want independence; what do we do then, sent troops to kill Puerto Ricans?
That's exactly what we did last time the question came up, back in 1861.  A little something called "The War of the Rebellion" (or if you were one of the rebels, "The War of Northern Aggression").
I can't understand how you missed it.  It was in all the papers.
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Today Puerto Rico Will Vote On Statehood

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 2:01 am
by RayThom
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Re: Today Puerto Rico will vote on statehood

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:01 am
by dales
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Re: Today Puerto Rico will vote on statehood

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:38 am
by Scooter
First, labelling a few sporadic attacks as "an insurgency" is beyond hyperbole.

Second, you never demonstrate your ignorance quite so clearly as when you spout such nonsense about your own country's history that even a foreigner can identify it as utter bullshit. No other territory has engaged in insurgency against the U.S.? Even just sticking to those areas which were legally territories at the time:

There was the Philippine-American War.

There was the "Confederate Territory of Arizona" carved out of the southern half of what was then New Mexico Territory by a secession convention, and whose troops waged war against the United States. It later became part of the states of Arizona and New Mexico

There were, in that same period, both pro-United States and pro-Confederacy factions in what was then Indian territory, and those who supported the Confederacy took up arms against the United States. Indian territory became part of the state of Oklahoma.

So remind us again how Puerto Rico, is so "different than [sic] other territories"?

I spoke only about areas that were legally designated territories, because the village idiot is too stupid to realize the depths of his own hypocrisy by continually carping about territories that take up arms against the United States, when his own state plus several more engaged in widespread treason against the United States.

I would ask the village idiot, who won't have the integrity or the courage to answer, who owes more loyalty to the United States? Is it the states who joined voluntarily, and then took up arms against the very institutions they vowed to "preserve, protect and defend"? Or is it territories that were annexed to the United States by force, and that in many cases were denied some or all of the privileges of citizens of the United States?

Reading the ravings of this product of multiple generations of Confederate inbreeders makes me wonder if it would have been better if a few million Confederates had been left hanging from trees in every corner of the South.

Re: Today Puerto Rico will vote on statehood

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:32 am
by Burning Petard
Yesterday, about one-fourth the eligible voters on this island commonwealth of the USofA voted in a non-binding referendum. Among the on-line newspapers I read it received slight coverage in the months before the vote. In my reading it will have no impact on things at the US congress. This vote was intended (one local news story said it was conducted at a cost to the local taxpayer of eleven million dollars.) to promote and build support for the agenda of the recently elected head of the commonwealth government. Recent pronouncements by the Supremes have called into question the nature of that commonwealth relationship which had been pretty stable for the last 60 years.

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Re: Today Puerto Rico will vote on statehood

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:10 pm
by Econoline
Recent pronouncements by the Supremes have called into question the nature of that commonwealth relationship which had been pretty stable for the last 60 years.
Yes, the Supremes did predict that Puerto Rico would someday join the United States: