an obvious solution

[liberty]

I hear that South Africa is having some serious problem and the so called white population is hearing threats of extermination. There is an obvious solution this problem. Move the honkeys to Australia that should solve everyone’s problem. South Africa would be rid of the white pollution and Australia would have immigrants that would assimilate well. In a generation they would disappear into the Australian culture. The ex- South African whites would be safe and everyone would be happy.

[Joe Guy]

[Scooter]

White genocide: How the big lie spread to the US and beyond

The spike in advocacy against a so-called “white genocide” in South Africa can be traced to a co-ordinated campaign by right-wing group the Suidlanders to bolster international support for white South Africans.

The group, who describe themselves as “an emergency plan initiative” to prepare a Protestant Christian South African minority for a coming violent revolution, has met various extremist alt-right groups and their influential media contacts in the United States to build up global opposition to the purported persecution of white people in South Africa.

This narrative, fostered in fringe alt-right publications in the US and repeated in the Murdoch-owned mainstream press, has had a direct influence on the utterances of a senior Australian politician.

But it is not only in Australia where the alt-right media narrative is influencing politicians. There has also been more focus on white South African farmers in Europe, with right-wing politicians who have direct links to the alt-right in the US, calling on the European Parliament to intervene in South Africa. Anti-refugee political players in the United Kingdom have also been linked to the cause.

The centring of South Africa in the alt-right agenda can be traced to a Suidlanders tour of the US last year.

Speaking to the Mail & Guardian on Thursday, Simon Roche, the spokesperson for the Suidlanders, said the promulgation of the message of South Africa’s “white genocide” to Europe and Australia could be directly attributed to his group’s protracted tour of the US last year.

Roche and fellow Suidlander member André Coetzee went to the US for what was meant to be a three-week whistle-stop tour but it ended up going on from March to September. They lobbied various alt-right groups, including people who have been publicly described as Nazis, fascists, racists, white supremacists, homophobes, anti-Semitic, anti-feminist and conspiracy theorists. Some have served time in jail for racial assaults and others regularly advocate violence in defence of whites.

These include the likes of David Duke, the former Grand Wizard of the Klu Klux Klan, a Republican state representative and an avid US President Donald Trump supporter, and David Spencer, a Nazi sympathiser, who coined the term “alt-right” to attract a new generation of right-wing supporters.

This network has allowed the Suidlanders to spread its message of “white genocide” around the world.

On September 14 last year, the Suidlanders Twitter account posted a link to a YouTube video of a report-back that Roche gave to the faithful at OR Tambo International Airport. In it, he announced that the group would be joining forces with a global grouping of the right.

“Suidlanders are working with some people to form a global forum for nationalists. This is a big thing that terrifies the powers that be,” he said.

He claimed the data drives that he sent home via UPS had been confiscated by the state, before declaring that the Suidlanders are “at the heart” of this global nationalist forum, which will convene for the first time later this year.

Roche this week said the forum would meet in June, and that he is working with lawyer William Johnson from the American Freedom Party, formerly known as the American Third Position.

According to the Southern Poverty Law Centre (SPLC), in 1985, Johnson proposed a constitutional amendment that would revoke the American citizenship of every non-white inhabitant of the US.

The village idiot protests when he is called out for being a racist, and yet these are the voices he listens to, and is just enough of a fool to be taken in by, because everything they say conforms to his own warped preconceptions.

[liberty]

I didn’t say that there was a pending genocide, but it has happened relatively recently in Africa, so I don’t see why it can’t happen again. All I am saying is if there aren’t any honkeys in South Africa there can’t be a white genocide. Problem solved.

[Lord Jim]

I hear that South Africa is having some serious problem and the so called white population is hearing threats of extermination.

Lib, could you please post your source for this? Thanks.

[liberty]

I hear that South Africa is having some serious problem and the so called white population is hearing threats of extermination.

Lib, could you please post your source for this? Thanks.

The whites hear the black leaders sing song about killing all the whites.

I recently got a new car with satellite radio. I listen to music and news. On CNN I hear mostly liberal propaganda which gets tiring after a while. I get more interesting stuff on BBC and fox. It was on fox I heard about what is going on in South Africa. It would not be a place where I would want to live. The country has an out of control murder and rape, but people are not allowed to defend themselves.

[MajGenl.Meade]

One way or the other, libs claims are the regurgitated cud of Steve Hofmyer, world un-renowned Afrikaner shit-kicker-music maven.

Fake new (i.e. facts). A prominent citizen here in Bloem was shot to death in the parking garage at Preller Square last Thursday, just outside the lift (elevator) door. He owned and operated a medical care company located on the 1st floor (2nd floor to you forriners). I was on that lift just an hour beforehand.

Stay with me here..... Thru a need to contact an author for assistance with my book, I was forced to join Twatter. Unfortunately, he's a rabid Trump fan (as well as being in his 70s). End result is that I've started to get Twats from "stop white genocide" or some such twat-name.

Sure enough, there was our Bloem guy - yet another example of "white genocide".

As it turns out, it was a rather odd hit - not a robbery and not anti-white. It seems he had refused to take a bribe to assist three guys in some Zumaesque scheme. One of them at least was black and I expect the other two (all arrested) are black as well but race and color had nothing to do with it. So much for "white genocide".

Footnote: world's dumbest. They rented a vehicle with a GPS tracking system. Didn't take the cops long to find 'em. Also, one returned to the scene next day and was asking questions which aroused the suspicion of a security guy who then recognized him from Thursday's videotape of the garage exit. I'm still using the elevator and the u/g parking lot - Saturday, yesterday and today.

Fake news (i.e. facts):

“Whites are far less likely to be murdered than their black or coloured counterparts,” Lizette Lancaster, who manages the Institute for Security Studies crime and justice hub, told Africa Check. This is supported by an analysis of a national sample of 1,378 murder dockets conducted by police in 2009. In 86.9% of the cases, the victims were Africans. Whites accounted for 1.8% of the cases (although whites make up 8.85% of the population).

According to Lancaster official police statistics show that between April 1994 and March 2012 a total of 361 015 people were murdered in South Africa. Applying the 1.8% figure, it would mean that roughly 6,498 whites have been murdered since April 1994.

Even if there were some variation on the 1.8% figure, the number of white murder victims would still fail to come anywhere close to filling a soccer stadium [Hofmyer's claim]. The fact is that whites are less likely to be murdered than any other race in South Africa. The current murder rate of white South Africans is also equivalent to, or lower than, murder rates for whites recorded between 1979 and 1991.

https://africacheck.org/reports/are-whi ... ike-flies/

Same fake news source says:

The interpretation of data on “farm attacks” is problematic as it relies on old police data and current, self-reported data collected and submitted by the Transvaal Agricultural Union of South Africa (TAUSA).

TAUSA figures for the 22 years between 1990 and 2012 state that 1,544 people were killed in farm attacks, an average of about 70 a year or one every 5.2 days. A report by trade union Solidarity, issued in 2012, found that 88 farmers were murdered in the 2006 to 2007 financial year.

So was Hofmeyr correct in claiming that “a white farmer is slaughtered every five days”?

According to a 2003 police committee of inquiry into farm attacks, cited by Solidarity, 38.4% of farm attack victims were described as being black, coloured or Asian. TAUSA’s figures suggest that 208 (or 13.5%) of those murdered in farm attacks between 1990 and 2012 were black.

Hofmeyr’s statement that a white farmer is murdered every five days is therefore also incorrect. The claim would only be true if he included all farm attack victims of all races.

[MajGenl.Meade]

South Africa:

In 2016/17, the police recorded a total of 19,016 murders, up from 18,673 murders in 2015/16. The murder rate increased marginally from 34 to 34.1 per 100,000 people.

USA:

According to a 2013 report by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC), between 2005 and 2012, the average homicide rate in the U.S. was 4.9 per 100,000 inhabitants compared to the average rate globally, which was 6.2.

Even so, black people I know here are scared they might have to go live in one of these places:

#5. Birmingham, Alabama Murder rate per 100k people: 37.21
Number of reported murders (2015): 79
Population: 212,291

#4. New Orleans, Louisiana Murder rate per 100k people: 41.68
Number of reported murders (2015): 164
Population: 393,447

#3. Detroit, Michigan Murder rate per 100k people: 43.82
Number of reported murders (2015): 295
Population: 673,225

#2. Baltimore, Maryland Murder rate per 100k people: 55.37
Number of reported murders (2015): 344
Population: 621,252

#1. St. Louis, Missouri Murder rate per 100k people: 59.29
Number of reported murders (2015): 188
Population: 317,095

I bet (lib) that the USA numbers of black murder victims are about the same order above those of white victims as they are here in S.A.

[Lord Jim]

Come on General, don't go mucking up the sensationalist narrative with a bunch of boring old facts...

What kind of fun is that?

[Big RR]

yes, I'm getting tired of True News.

[Scooter]

Given that Louisiana has had the highest murder rate of any state in the Union for several years running, one would think that the village idiot would be more concerned about the situation in his own backyard, rather than listening to fairy tales about what isn't actually happening halfway around the world. But then the rest of us would lose a major source of entertainment.

[liberty]

Why is this race baiting? Things can happen in South Africa that can’t happen here. I am surprised the place has not gone communist already. With so many really poor people in the racial majority and so many rich in the white minority; it would seem the political pressure to seize property of the whites would be irresistible.

If the whites wait until the place goes communist it will be too late then. They better start getting out now while they can.
Communist always follow the same pattern: First they consolidate power and then they take your property and then your freedom and finally your life. Nothing can be done about it about it except get out.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/15/takin ... th-africa/

Taking The Vote Away From White Men Isn’t A Joke In South Africa

Scott Greer

Deputy Editor

8:51 PM 04/15/2017





The Huffington Post made a bold move this week in publishing one of the most click-baity op-eds in recent memory: “Could It Be Time To Deny White Men The Franchise?”

Written by an alleged South African philosophy student Shelley Garland, the piece poorly argued for the need to take the vote away from white males all over the world. (RELATED: HuffPo Writer Proposes Stripping White Men Of Voting Rights)
On Saturday, HuffPo retracted the article after it was revealed that the purported author of the article likely doesn’t exist. It’s not too surprising that the article was probably just an elaborate troll — even though the liberal media giant defended its publication as a valid point of view before deleting it. (That defense has since been scrubbed as well.)
Even if it was all just a bit of satire, the article represents a point of view that is becoming more prevalent in South Africa and among some leftists in Europe and America as well.

Lamenting Brexit and Donald Trump’s surprise win, “Garland” placed the blame squarely on the shoulders of white men for most of the world’s problems. Focusing on her home country, the self-declared philosophy student said, “90 percent of the country’s land is in the hands of whites (it is safe to assume these are mainly men), along with 97 percent of the Johannesburg Stock Exchange” and claimed that this is the norm throughout the entire world.
That’s a terrible thing, if you couldn’t tell.

So the author offered a modest solution: “a moratorium on the franchise for white males for a period of between 20 and 30 years is a small price to pay for the pain inflicted by white males on others, particularly those with black, female-identifying bodies.” Without this right, the essayist hopes the wealth and property of white men will be properly redistributed to make for “the past 500 years [of] colonialism, slavery, and various aggressive wars and genocides.”

These arguments, of course, appear even less serious when you take into account that this was likely a troll. However reassuring that may be, the idea of disenfranchising whites is a serious one in South Africa — the nation Garland claimed to hail from.
In Huffington Post’s retraction, its South African subsidiary insisted that it follows the nation’s stipulation to not publish hate speech — implying the article amounted to that.

Unfortunately, SA’s leaders aren’t as interested in avoiding hate speech towards whites. Just last month, the country’s president Jacob Zuma called the confiscation of all white-owned property — without restitution. (RELATED: South African President Calls For Confiscating White-Owned Land)
The move was likely in response to the growing popularity of Julius Malema and his far-left Economic Freedom Fighters party. Malema has spent a lot of time campaigning around the country urging for the redistribution of property from “white invaders” in order to “unite black people in South Africa.”

The neighboring state of Zimbabwe implemented the same idea of confiscating white-owned land — with disastrous consequences.
Both Zuma and Malema are fond of singing the song “Kill the Boer,” an anthem that has been deemed a call for murder of Afrikaners. And it’s not just inflammatory songs and punitive proposals white South Africans have to worry about.
As a recent Australian news report points out, gruesome farm murders against white landowners are starting to rise in the African state. These crimes usually involve horrific torture of the victims — including the use of blowtorches and power drills — that appear to be driven in part by anti-white sentiment.
This alarming problem is being met with silence and even derision by the country’s predominately black leadership. When one lawmaker spoke out on the matter in parliament in March, a colleague from the ruling African National Congress shouted “Bury them alive!” in response to the threat posed to white farmowners.


The group Genocide Watch has even stated that the “early warnings of genocide are still deep in South African society.”
So while the HuffPo article itself may not have been serious, it’s not a fringe proposal in the current climate of South Africa. And, by all appearances, if Shelley Garland had turned out to be a real person, HuffPo’s SA branch would’ve still stood by it. Which is a strong indication they thought it was a valid point of view.\

Here in America, we have the luxury of seeing similar articles and knowing that they have no way in hell of being enacted in the foreseeable future. Even though there may be some on the Left who will entertain the idea of disenfranchising white voters, it will be greeted by the rest of our society as ridiculous.

In South Africa, it’s not such a crazy idea to call for the disenfranchisement of whites. And if Malema or another politician suggests it in public, there will be no recourse in pretending it’s a joke.