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A little less stuffy than most of these affairs tend to be:
Royal wedding: Meghan Markle and Prince Harry are married

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London (CNN)And they're married! Britain's Prince Harry and US actress Meghan Markle sealed their wedding vows with a kiss on the steps outside Windsor's St. George's Chapel on Saturday, cheered on by delighted crowds.

The couple -- now the Duke and Duchess of Sussex -- then set off on a procession through the streets of Windsor in an open carriage drawn by four Windsor Grey horses.

The bridal party, including three-year-old Princess Charlotte, Harry's niece, waved enthusiastically as the couple departed from the chapel after a ceremony that was unprecedented in British royal history and watched by millions around the world.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/19/europe/r ... index.html

It's been a curious phenomena that Americans have always gotten almost as stoked over British Royal weddings as the Brits themselves, but I suppose the interest for this one is even higher than usual since an American is involved...

Personally I think the kids stole the show, especially little Charlotte:

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A British heir to the throne marrying an American divorcee?

Been done before.

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Here's hoping this one goes better than that one... 8-)

ETA:

At least thus far, Meghan doesn't seem to have exhibited any inclination to persuade her husband to betray his country...
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I must admit, Ms Markle looked stunning.

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Lord Jim wrote:It's been a curious phenomena that Americans have always gotten almost as stoked over British Royal weddings as the Brits themselves, but I suppose the interest for this one is even higher than usual since an American is involved...
Ugh. I suppose it's all entertainment and celebrity for some, but "royalty" makes my skin crawl. I wish them, as I wish any couple, a happy marriage, and I'll just leave it at that.
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The Brits -- they got their Royals, we got Lord Dampnut and his court jesters.

I do not have one English relative who has the "warm and fuzzies" for the Windsors. I don't have one American family member who has the warm and fuzzies for Lord Dampnut. Leaches all.

Both extremes must go but for now at least two nations are stuck with them. A day doesn't go by that they're not "in yer face" displaying their plumage. Who is more socially relevant? It's a coin toss of negativity where there are no winners. I can't wait to see what group of lustful lovers break up sooner than what's expected of their union.

And the feckless 'philes' just loves their status quo.
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A British heir to the throne marrying an American divorcee?

Been done before

Except, the groom soon ceased to be heir to the throne and the bride was not very welcome at family gatherings.

snailgate.

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Burning Petard wrote:A British heir to the throne marrying an American divorcee?

Been done before

Except, the groom soon ceased to be heir to the throne and the bride was not very welcome at family gatherings.

snailgate.
To be accurate: the former Edward VIII married Wallis Simpson a few months after he abdicated and almost a year and a half since he had ceased to be heir to the throne.

It all makes me feel very old. I used to know Harry and William's great grandfather. OK we didn't go out boozing together, but he was Chairman of the Board of Governors of my school and signed all the books for the annual prize giving ceremony. Since I was a swot I still have several books on my shelves signed just 'Spencer.'

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Oh that great grandfather. Until I got to the end I thought you were talking about George VI. That would have made you really old.
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Just been watching the action slo-mo replay on BBC America (third time through today I think - I missed the first two go arounds). That young man playing Schubert's Ave Maria can do that at my funeral - I don't care much for the royals and I'm not a church-goer: but that is a magnificent piece of music. My favo(u)rite rendition is by American soprano Barbara Bonney.

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The church looked lovely with all the greenery, and I loved the American Bishop's sermon and the choir and the cellist. Her dress & veil were lovely - though I liked Kate's dress better, Meghan's 16 foot veil was really something, adorned with floral lace representing all the Commonwealth nations, and Queen Mary's tiara was stunning - so glad she wore it so it could be seen.

But overall monarchy makes me want to puke, it's such an antiquated and disgusting institution. As likable as Wills and Harry are, I'd still love to see the whole House of Windsor made into just another normal wealthy dysfunctional family. I can't believe in 2018 we are still as backward as we are, and the very concept of royalty is just one big aspect of that. :(
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Yes but . . .

The one thing you want to avoid is the situation where the head of government is also the head of state. Exhibit A: Donald J Trump.

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What's this I hear about the happy couple becoming the Duke and Duchess of Sex???















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RayThom wrote:The Brits -- they got their Royals, we got Lord Dampnut and his court jesters.
Well the royals are more like the figurehead on a ship, prominent, but not steering the boat. Your President however...
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BoSoxGal wrote:
But overall monarchy makes me want to puke, it's such an antiquated and disgusting institution. As likable as Wills and Harry are, I'd still love to see the whole House of Windsor made into just another normal wealthy dysfunctional family. I can't believe in 2018 we are still as backward as we are, and the very concept of royalty is just one big aspect of that. :(
LOL!! Well feel free to ignore them, given the results of your system you're in no position to tell others how to run their affairs.
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I'm not a religious person but the speech by Rev Curry, which I have seen since, is quite touching.
The late Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. once said, and I quote:

“We must discover the power of love,

the redemptive power of love.

And when we discover that, we will be able to make of this old world

a new world.

Love is the only way.”

There’s power in love. Do not underestimate it. Don’t even over-sentimentalize it.

There’s power in love. If you don’t believe me, think about a time when you first fell in love. The whole world seemed to center around you and your beloved.

Oh, there’s power, there’s power in love.

Not just in its romantic forms, but any form, any shape of love. There’s a certain sense in which when you are loved and you know it, when someone cares for you and you know it, when you love and you show it, it actually feels right. There’s something right about it.

And there’s a reason for it. The reason has to do with the source.

We were made by a power of love. Our lives were and are meant to be lived in that love. That is why we are here.

Ultimately the source of love is God himself. The source of all of our lives.

An old medieval poem says it:
“Where true love is found, God himself is there.”

The Bible, 1 John 4 says it this way. “Beloved, let us love one another, because love is from God; Everyone who loves is born of God

Whoever does not love does not know God For God is love.” (1John 4:4-8)

There’s power in love.

Love can help and heal when nothing else can.
Love can lift up and liberate for living when nothing else will.

There’s power in love to show us the way to live. Set me as a seal on your heart, for love is as strong as death.

And the love that brings two people together is the same love that can bind them together, Whether on mountaintops of happiness
and through valleys of hardship.

Love is strong as death
It’s flashes are flashes of fire. Many waters cannot quench love

Love can see you through! There’s power in love.

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But the love of which we speak is not only for couples getting married or just for interpersonal relationships.

Jesus of Nazareth taught us that the way of love is
the way to a real relationship with the God who created all of us,
and the way to true relationship with each other as children of that one God, as brothers and sisters in God’s human family.

One scholar said it this way:
“Jesus had founded the most revolutionary movement in human history: a movement built on the unconditional love of God for the world and the mandate to live that love.” (Charles Marsh’s The Beloved Community)

I’m talking about power. Real power — power to change the world.

If you don’t believe me, well, there were some old slaves in America’s antebellum South who explained the dynamic power of love and why it has the power to transform.

They explained it this way — they sang a spiritual, even in the midst of their captivity, it’s one that says:

“There is a balm in Gilead
To make the wounded whole

There is a balm in Gilead to heal the sin sick soul.

If you cannot preach like Peter, And you cannot pray like Paul, You can tell the love of Jesus, How he died to save us all.

That’s the balm in Gilead.”

This way of love is the way of life.

They got it — he died to save us all.

He didn’t die for anything he could get out of it.

Jesus did not get an honorary doctorate out of it.

He wasn’t getting anything out of it —

He did it for others, for the other, for the good and well being of others. That’s what love is

Love is not selfish and self-centered.

Love can be sacrificial.

And in so doing, becomes redemptive.

And that way of unselfish, sacrificial, redemptive love can change lives

and it can change this world.

If you don’t believe me, just stop and think and imagine a world where love is the way.

Imagine our homes and families when this way of love is the way. Imagine our neighborhoods and communities when love is the way. Imagine our governments and nations when love is the way. Imagine business and commerce when this love is the way. Imagine this third old world when love is the way.

No child would go to bed hungry in such a world as that. When love is the way, we will let justice roll down like a might stream and righteousness like an ever-flowing book.

When love is the way, poverty will become history. When love is the way, the earth will be a sanctuary. When love is the way, we will lay down our swords and shields down by the riverside to study war no more.

When love is the way, there’s plenty good room — plenty good room — for all of God’s children. When love is the way, we actually treat each other like we are actually family. When love is the way, we know that God is the source of us all. We are brothers and sisters, children of God.

Brothers and sisters: that’s a new heaven, a new earth, a new world, a new human family.

Let me tell you something: Old Solomon was right in the Old Testament — that’s fire.

And with this, I will sit down: we got to get you all married.

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The late French Jesuit, Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, was at once a scientist, a Roman Catholic priest, a theologian, a true mystic. His was one of the great minds and spirits of the 20th century.

He suggested that the discovery and harnessing of fire
was one of the great scientific and technological discoveries of human history.

Fire, to a great extent, made human civilization possible. Fire made it possible to cook food, thereby reducing the spread of disease. Fire made it possible to stay warm in cold climates, thereby marking human migration around the world a possibility.
Fire made the Bronze Age, the Iron Age, the Industrial Revolution possible. The advances of science and technology are greatly dependent on the human capacity to take fire and use it for human good.

Anybody get here in a car today? Nod your heads if you did. I know there were some carriages.

If you drove here this morning, you did so in part because of harnessed fire. I know that the Bible says I believe that Jesus walked on water, but I have to tell you, I didn’t walk across the Atlantic Ocean to get here.

Controlled fire in that plane got me here.

Fire makes it possible for us to text, tweet, email, Instagram and Facebook and socially be dysfunctional with each other. Fire makes all of that possible.

de Chardin said that fire is one of the greatest discoveries in all of human histories.

He then went on to say that if humanity ever harnesses the energy of fire again, if humanity ever captures the energy of love,
then for the second time in the history of the world,
we will have discovered fire.

Love is the very fire and energy of real life! Dr. King was right:

We must discover love.

The redemptive power of love.

When we do that, we will make of this old world a new world.

“My brother, my sister,
God love you, God bless you.

My brothers, my sisters,
God love you, God bless you.

And may God hold us all
In those almighty hands of love. Amen.”
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The Brits -- they got their Royals, we got Lord Dampnut and his court jesters.
Wow...

The only comparison I see between Donald Trump and Queen Elizabeth is as exact opposites...

Her Majesty is the epitome of grace, class, and dignity....

Il Boobce is the antithesis of grace, class, and dignity...

(And she didn't duck out of military service, either)

Seems to me we could really use an infusion of grace, class, and dignity in our national leadership; I'd take QE2 over DTI any day day of the week...

Trump is a national burden to be borne...

The Queen is a national treasure to be celebrated...
And the feckless 'philes' just loves their status quo.
And the feckless 'phobes' just love kicking over apple carts for no good cause...
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Lord Jim wrote:... And the feckless 'phobes' just love kicking over apple carts for no good cause...
As Lord Dampnut is fond of saying, "we'll see and when we see we'll know. You got to know and see if you're going to know something you know. Am I right people?"

Granted, my Midlands clan are not to the 'manner' born but most are very comfortable in their position. They know the Royals are leaches on the overtaxed citizens of Great Britain and need to be sent packing. The monarchy is proving daily to be unsustainable. (Guns or butter?)

Too many pseudo-pundits/apologists in the peerage industry force themselves into forgetting that monarchies originally accumulated their wealth from raping and plundering the ignorant and poor, being mesmerized by the pomp and circumstance, and the spectacle of it all. Over time, the Royals were able to purchase their respectability (just like Joe Kennedy, etal.) and, after time, convinced themselves they truly earned it.

And to that I say 'poppycock.' It's no wonder there are so many Pubs in GB -- the masses are all drinking to forget.

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A headline in the NYT:

Meghan Markle’s Second Wedding Dress Is by Stella McCartney

Typical liberal rag emphasizing that our new lovely princess is a divorcee just like the much-maligned Wallis and of course our President. No need for that.

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This is the second wedding dress by Stella McCartney; it was worn to the evening wedding reception, per tradition there are always two. No insult about her divorcee status whatsoever.

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