Plan B Forum

Big RR wrote:Yep, I knew it was old news. And the obstruction of the WH, and Trump in particular, is current news. you can comment on that if you want, Lib.

I will when I have the time and in the mood and not distracted by something more pressing.

Are you saying that Demorat operatives in the Obama administration did not lie to a federal judge in order to obtain a warrant to spy on the trump campaign?

Hillary Was Right Calling Them “Deplorables.”

MAY 9, 2019 / JOHN PAVLOVITZ

Hillary Clinton was right about everything.

She was right when she warned us that Donald Trump was in bed with Russia.
She was right when she said our election process was being irreparably compromised.
She was right when she noted his cruelty, his impulsiveness, and his recklessness.
She was right when she suggested he was beholden to a murderous foreign dictator.
She was right when she told us that he was dangerously incapable of self-control on social media.
She was right when she pointed out the toxic hatred he was cultivating and releasing in people.
She was right when she noticed the way he was dragging national discourse into the toilet.

And she was right was when she called his supporters “deplorables.”

At the time of the statement in 2016, she was unfairly excoriated in the media and by Republicans—but looking back she was using sober judgement, measured speech, and incredible restraint:

“To just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. They’re racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic – Islamophobic – you name it.”

They are.

In the wake of the police shootings of black men, the street corner assaults on gay couples, the #MeToo and Black Lives Matter movements, the defacing of synagogues, the burning of black churches, the mistreatment of migrant families—Trump’s supporters daily reveal their phobic hearts and their willingness to ignore vulnerable people’s suffering.

“And unfortunately, there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people – now have 11 million.”

He has.

He continually cries “fake news” about the legitimate Press, while disseminating the wildest of conspiracy theories from extremists media outlets, previously and rightly marginalized because they appealed to only the tiniest lunatic fringe.

“He tweets and retweets their offensive hateful mean-spirited rhetoric.”

He does.

Just look at his Twitter feed at any moment during the past three years, and you’ll find the unhinged, incendiary ramblings of a supremacist, terrorist sympathizer—whose account under any other circumstance—would be deactivated for its hate speech, its purposeful targeting of individuals, and its steady invocation to violence.

In 2016, Hillary was being prophetic.

She used the word “deplorable,” to describe people who would soon:
applaud Muslim travel bans,
celebrate families separated at the border,
abide children being placed in cages,
demonize teenage shooting victims,
defiantly deny the value of black lives,
vilify sexual assault survivors,
bless a predator to the Supreme Court,
cheer Presidential rally cries of shooting immigrants,
approve of the suppressing of Special Counsel reports,
sanction the complete perversion of our Rule of Law.

Deplorable, was being kind. I have many other words for such people, and they’re much stronger and far less diplomatic than that.

Hillary closed her now infamous comments by saying,

“Now, some of those folks—they are irredeemable, but thankfully, they are not America.”

Well, she was about half right.

These people may not be America, but they represent a good 38 percent of it. That’s far too much of any nation aspiring to greatness. As long as more than a third of our country blesses such malfeasance and tolerates this kind of toxicity in the name of holding power, we’re going to continue to regress into chaos and implosion.

When Hillary Clinton said that half of Trump’s supporters were deplorables, she was in essence claiming them to be filled with contempt for others, motivated by fear, and driven to exclusion. She may have been right in that moment—but the percentage today is actually much higher.

Guinevere wrote:I do not understand why you all continue to feed this troll. If you stopped giving it attention, it may go away.

Big RR wrote:There's certainly no credible proof of that; I'll wait until I see the proof, but so far I have seen no evidence of it.

and since you're only up to commenting on on things reported more than a year ago, I imagine we'll have a long wait.

The Village Idiot wrote:So what would be wrong with an investigation of those that made the allegations?

The Village Idiot wrote:So, if you refuse to accept liberal domination you are troll.
So, if you want something done about the nation’s problems you’re a troll.
So, if you are fed up blue state, liberal, double standard of fairness you are troll.
So, if you are tired of a double standard in international trade you are a troll.

Lord Jim wrote:
Meanwhile, we have a President who in present day real time is attempting to trample the Constitution by crushing the Article I powers of the Congress through Executive Dictat, and prevent the American people from having any information about the actions of his Administration on any subject (other than that provided by his shills and propagandists) ...

About that unprecedentedly massive wholesale obstruction effort I presume you have nothing to say...