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King Peggy said in her book that the lucky Africans are the ones alive today who’s ancestors were taken to Americas as slaves.
Is king Peggy a uncle tom?

King Peggy: An American Secretary, Her Royal Destiny, and ...

https://www.amazon.com/King-Peggy-Ameri ... 0307742814

King Peggy is a lovely book about an improbable, yet true tale of a middle-aged Americanized woman who becomes the king of a village in Ghana. The book details her reign there and the many decisions she must make for the betterment of her people as they still believe in witchcraft, spells, and signs.

You have a nose for people who are almost as confused as yourself.


yrs,
rubato

'said wrote' -1
'whose ancestors' -1
'the Americas' -1
'an Uncle Tom' -3
'King Peggy' -1

It is not a "tale . . . about a book". The last two sentences are not a horror of your creation (as evidenced by the precise capitalization), but take -2 marks for perpetuating ignorance.

Your score: 1/10

Please don't try harder

liberty wrote:King Peggy said in her book that the lucky Africans are the ones alive today who’s ancestors were taken to Americas as slaves.
Is king Peggy a uncle tom?

WTAF?

My guess, and I haven't read the book so I'm not sure, is that, if there is any truth in what Lib posted, it is some sort of statement the descendant's of slaves in the US have far more access to services such as education and healthcare than many African living in Africa. So that the descendants of the slaves who are still in the US could be viewed as comparatively "lucky". They are not "lucky" because their descendants were slaves, but because they are here; and it is not surprising given how many people want to come to the US from the third world. Only Liberty could somehow tie that to Uncle tom's Cabin, or Uncle Tom.

Of course Liberty is also lucky because he is a white male in this country, and by virtue of that alone, gets access to opportunities to non whites and/or non-males do not get. But I'd bet he wouldn't see that birthright as luck, he'd say he got everything he has just because of his hard work.

I haven't read the book either, and I highly doubt that liberty has, but from what I could glean from the Amazon blurb, the author is a Ghanaian who immigrated to the U.S. in her 20s, became an American citizen in her 40s, and in her 50s moved back to her family's impoverished village in Ghana. I didn't see anything about slaves or their descendants being "lucky," and evidently neither she nor her ancestors were slaves (at least not in America).

Moreover, people "who’s [sic] ancestors were taken to Americas as slaves" are not "Africans," lucky or otherwise; they are Americans just like everyone else born here.

I'm confused by the whole OP. I mean, aside from the obvious expression of liberty's racism.

I saw that blurb on Amazon as well; I was just trying to thoink of something that might have been said which Liberty chose to misinterpret. It may well not have been there at all, and you are right, they are American, not Africans.

It's kind of like a book I read once by and Eastern EuropeanJewish man who said the Jews in his country were "lucky" they had pogroms in the early 20th century, as many of them (including him) fled the pogroms and came to US, avoiding death at the hands of the Nazis during WW2 (a few years later). It strains the definition of "lucky", but I understand his point.

Well, there's 15 minutes of my life I won't get back...

I just did a number of searches, both for King Peggy and Peggielene Bartels (her real name) I even used search phrases like "Peggielene Bartels said Africans lucky to be brought to America", and while I have found a number of articles about her, and her book, and a couple of interviews (her story certainly sounds like a fascinating one, and she seems like a very interesting person) I have found, zero, zip, nada, bupkis, and bugger all about her saying or writing (in her book or anywhere else) anything remotely related to "the lucky Africans are the ones alive today who’s ancestors were taken to Americas as slaves"...

Here's my guess...

Lib picked up this bit of "information" from some dodgy (probably alt-right and/or white nationalist) source that he decided he didn't want to share, (knowing that it wouldn't be accepted as legitimate) so he posted the (apparently false) claim made by the writer on that website, but then provided a link to the Amazon site for her book...

Lord Jim wrote:Well, there's 15 minutes of my life I won't get back...

I just did a number of searches, both for King Peggy and Peggielene Bartels (her real name) I even used search phrases like "Peggielene Bartels said Africans lucky to be brought to America", and while I have found a number of articles about her, and her book, and a couple of interviews (her story certainly sounds like a fascinating one, and she seems like a very interesting person) I have found, zero, zip, nada, bupkis, and bugger all about her saying or writing (in her book or anywhere else) anything remotely related to "the lucky Africans are the ones alive today who’s ancestors were taken to Americas as slaves"...

Here's my guess...

Lib picked up this bit of "information" from some dodgy (probably alt-right and/or white nationalist) source that he decided he didn't want to share, (knowing that it wouldn't be accepted as legitimate) so he posted the (apparently false) claim made by the writer on that website, but then provided a link to the Amazon site for her book...

Whether I got it right or not it came from the book and I think the section where she gave the history of the area. I have trouble remembering details it has been awhile. But I think she was comparing the lives those who’s (that is on purpose) ancestors stayed in Africa and those people who’s (again on purpose) ancestors were taken to America ( later USA ). The blacks in the US today are comparatively rich when compared to the blacks in Africa.

Get the book at library it is not that big and a good read you guys could read it in a couple of minutes. (Sarcasm)

People born in more fortunate circumstances rather than less fortunate do so with no regard to the history which has put them them there.

All else is bullshit.

yrs,
rubato

Big RR wrote:
Of course Liberty is also lucky because he is a white male in this country, and by virtue of that alone, gets access to opportunities to non whites and/or non-males do not get.

You know nothing, if you knew my history you wouldn’t think I was privileged. It took me years to overcome the damage my step father did to me and in some ways I still have not recovered. Most American blacks today had a better start in life than I had.

Imagine how your life would have been if you were going through all that and you were black too.

liberty wrote:

Big RR wrote: Of course Liberty is also lucky because he is a white male in this country, and by virtue of that alone, gets access to opportunities to non whites and/or non-males do not get.

You know nothing, if you knew my history you wouldn’t think I was privileged. It took me years to overcome the damage my step father did to me and in some ways I still have not recovered. Most American blacks today had a better start in life than I had.

Sorry, liberty.  Your victim card has been



-"BB"-

Of course Liberty is also lucky because he is a white male in this country, and by virtue of that alone, gets access to opportunities to non whites

That was also true of Simon Legree

The Village Idiot wrote:Whether I got it right or not it ...

Translation: "I have absolutely zero regard for the truth of what I post."

The Village Idiot wrote:I have trouble remembering details it has been awhile.

So this is another "Europeans don't eat corn" or "Canada was an ally of the Soviet Union" fairy tale.

The Village Idiot wrote:Get the book at library it is not that big and a good read

It's 333 pages so we know the village idiot has never read it because his attention span could never possibly manage it.

Bicycle Bill wrote:

liberty wrote:

Big RR wrote: Of course Liberty is also lucky because he is a white male in this country, and by virtue of that alone, gets access to opportunities to non whites and/or non-males do not get.

You know nothing, if you knew my history you wouldn’t think I was privileged. It took me years to overcome the damage my step father did to me and in some ways I still have not recovered. Most American blacks today had a better start in life than I had.

Sorry, liberty.  Your victim card has been



-"BB"-

I am not applying for a victim card. I don’t believe in victim-hood it just gets in the ones way. If I had wallowed in poor me I would probably be in jail, living on the streets or dead by now. As it is, I got a job I love, two houses and a wife and family that loves me. I didn’t do too badly.

Wallowing in victim-hood might be what impedes many blacks advancing in the world. The world will never be a perfect place all one can do is the best one can with the hand life deals them.

If you think you don’t have a chance of success you probably don’t.

Joe Guy wrote:Imagine how your life would have been if you were going through all that and you were black too.

Absolutely dead solid *PERFECT* response, Joe. I'm going to remember that, and use it when the need arises, as it does from time to time...

Most American blacks today had a better start in life than I had.

I am presuming you mean in terms of structure and dynamics, and from what you say, that may well be true, or not.

However, I am referring to something very different, and that is the birthright advantage you had just in being white instead of black. your disadvantages might have held you back some, but it's a lot easier to make a touchdown from the 50 than from the 10, regardless of how good or bad the rest of the team is.

Joe had it right.

Depends which 10

Touche!