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Maybe Not 'Cultural Appropriation' - But a Stupid Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:52 pm
by Joe Guy
The term "Cultural Appropriation" is difficult for me to take seriously whenever it's used, but the ad for Sauvage is something else entirely. For me it's not about cultural appropriation or racism. That's just a bunch of PC people declaring their victimhood once again.

What I can't understand is that someone thought using an American Indian in an ad for "Sauvage" cologne was a good idea....

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Dior accused of racism, cultural appropriation for new 'Sauvage' cologne ad
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Fashion brand Dior released a video advertisement Friday morning for its cologne, Sauvage, featuring a Native American dancer in ceremonial garb, including a feathered headdress. The combination of the imagery and the name of the cologne, prompted many on social media to interpret the ad as racist and emblematic of cultural appropriation.

"An authentic journey deep into the Native American soul in a sacred, founding and secular territory," the tweet said of the cologne, which was first introduced in 2015.

Americans for Indian Opportunity, a 50-year old nonprofit that advocates for the rights of Indigenous peoples, said it collaborated with Dior on the new ad campaign titled “We are the Land" which was filmed near Arches National Monument in Utah.

The nonprofit said in a statement that it worked with music video director Jean-Baptiste Mondino and actor Johnny Depp to "provide advice on authentic inclusion of Native American images in the film promoting Depp’s signature parfum."

Depp, who played Tonto, a Native American character, in the 2013 Disney film “The Lone Ranger," also faced backlash on social media for participating in the Dior campaign.

In previous “Sauvage” ads, Depp was filmed in the American west.

"On its face, this is horrible. Then you confirm the name: Sauvage. Like 'savage,' but fancier. THEN I clicked through (so others wouldn’t have to) and Johnny Depp is the face of this," tweeted activist April Reign, who created the #OscarsSoWhite campaign. "Depp, who immersed himself in cultural appropriation with Tonto. @dior, you can’t be serious."
A scene featuring Johnny Depp from the Dior ad for their new perfume "Sauvage".
A scene from the Dior ad for their new perfume "Sauvage".Eric J Guillemain / Dior

Author Laura Gilman tweeted: "So, either everyone at Dior's ad company has been snoozing for the past decade+, or they were counting on the outrage for cheap publicity."

Either way, she said, "it stinks."

Dior said the "new, highly concentrated interpretation of Sauvage" melds "extreme freshness with warm oriental tones and wild beauty that comes to life on the skin."

François Demachy, its creator, drew inspiration from "unspoiled expanses of wilderness beneath a blue-tinged night sky, as the intense aromas of a crackling fire rise into the air," according to the company's website.

Dior released a more than 3-minute long video Friday afternoon it described as "stories behind the creation" of Sauvage, featuring Depp.

This isn't the first time Dior has been accused of cultural appropriation or slammed for whom it featured as the face of a campaign.

In November 2018, an advertisement for the Dior Cruise 2019 collection, which was inspired by Mexican culture, drew criticism for starring actress Jennifer Lawrence, who is white.

Earlier this week, Kim Kardashian West announced she had renamed her shapewear line SKIMS Solutionwear, after she was accused of cultural appropriation for branding it Kimono.

Re: Maybe Not 'Cultural Appropriation' - But a Stupid Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:25 pm
by Bicycle Bill
Earlier this week, Kim Kardashian West announced she had renamed her shapewear line SKIMS Solutionwear, after she was accused of cultural appropriation for branding it Kimono.
It would have been OK if she had spelled it "Kim? Oh, no!"
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-"BB"-

Re: Maybe Not 'Cultural Appropriation' - But a Stupid Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:34 pm
by Joe Guy
:mrgreen:

Re: Maybe Not 'Cultural Appropriation' - But a Stupid Idea

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:05 am
by Lord Jim
What I can't understand is that someone thought using an American Indian in an ad for "Sauvage" cologne was a good idea....
Come on Joe, cut these guys some slack...

That was a big improvement over what I understand was the original image they planned to use:

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Re: Maybe Not 'Cultural Appropriation' - But a Stupid Idea

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:26 am
by Joe Guy
Lord Jim wrote: Come on Joe, cut these guys some slack...

That was a big improvement over what I understand was the original image they planned to use:......
I like your photo better. It would appeal to the targeted customer base much more effectively.

Eau de Sauvage...

Re: Maybe Not 'Cultural Appropriation' - But a Stupid Idea

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:25 am
by BoSoxGal
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What a stunning fancy dancer!


Too bad the marketing morons couldn’t find an appropriate use for this imagery. I agree that someone was asleep at the wheel pairing a fancy dancer with ‘sauvage’.

Re: Maybe Not 'Cultural Appropriation' - But a Stupid Idea

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:55 am
by MajGenl.Meade
tweeted activist April Reign
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Maybe Not 'Cultural Appropriation' - But a Stupid Idea

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:40 am
by RayThom
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Re: Maybe Not 'Cultural Appropriation' - But a Stupid Idea

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:05 am
by Lord Jim
tweeted activist April Reign
No report on the reaction of her partner, May Flowers...

Re: Maybe Not 'Cultural Appropriation' - But a Stupid Idea

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:58 pm
by ex-khobar Andy
I used to know a young woman called April Showers. Hippy parents.

Re: Maybe Not 'Cultural Appropriation' - But a Stupid Idea

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:29 pm
by RayThom
ex-khobar Andy wrote:I used to know a young woman called April Showers. Hippy parents.
Hopefully there were no siblings named Golden.

Wouldn't that be a pisser.

Re: Maybe Not 'Cultural Appropriation' - But a Stupid Idea

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:08 am
by rubato
Someone should tell the plains indians that they 'culturally appropriated' their costume designs and some dance moves from the mating dances of sage grouse and other upland game birds.


yrs,
rubato

Re: Maybe Not 'Cultural Appropriation' - But a Stupid Idea

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:50 am
by BoSoxGal
The story indicates that native Americans were consulted in the marketing design process. Wonder if it was native Americans complaining, or SJWs on their behalf?