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Perhaps it's a desperate cry for help. Harry is sending a coded message to all his fans. He's under the lash, or something like that.

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I that knew they just enjoy tweaking people with OCD.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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I think it belongs to Prince Andrew, sitting up front. Probably forgot Meghan is 25 years too old for him
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MajGenl.Meade wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:26 pm
I think it belongs to Prince Andrew, sitting up front. Probably forgot Meghan is 25 years too old for him
Pretty sure you have the roles reversed. Andrew doesn’t give the lash, he receives it.
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I can only assume that they employed idiots to design their webpage. Maybe they'll do better on rebranding, though I doubt it. Apparently they're postponed the launch of their rebranding because they won't get enough news coverage what with covid stealing the headlines.
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Guinevere wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:22 pm
MajGenl.Meade wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:26 pm
I think it belongs to Prince Andrew, sitting up front. Probably forgot Meghan is 25 years too old for him
Pretty sure you have the roles reversed. Andrew doesn’t give the lash, he receives it.
I thought perhaps he carried it with him in case of need - rather like a fishing rod
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So we have the Oprah interview next Sunday. Meanwhile his grandad Philip has been moved to St Bartholomew's Hospital (they have a heart specialist unit - and it's where my mother did her nursing training after that last little bout of unpleasantness with the Germans) and frankly a 99 year old man spending two weeks in hospital - soon to be three weeks - is not a good sign. So timing might be a little awkward. Last time I watched Oprah was the Lance Armstrong interview. Not sure if I will watch this one.

I'm no fan of the royal family but there are times that I think that having a separate head of state, even if theoretically a figurehead - is a lot better than the US model where head of government and head of state are combined. (Separate topic for another day - I don't read the constitution as making POTUS head of state - after all his role is defined in Article 2 not Article 1 - purely head of Administration. The administrative role to me seems to be just that: Congress figures out the speed limit and Admin works out how to achieve it - signs, policing, radar guns - and puts in place a system to make it so.)

I'm frankly bewildered by the continual bleating that Meghan is in danger of being hounded to death by the press like her late mother-in-law. I read a couple of UK newspapers and hear from family routinely and I really do not recall any hostility from the press. General opinion seemed to be that although she was a divorcee and American she was hardly the second coming of Wallis Simpson and she seemed to be nice. There was obvious speculation about who he would settle down with (just as there was with his dad and his brother and his Uncle Andrew and his Aunt Anne) (I don't recall such about his Uncle Edward who seems to be the only one of his immediate family to have made a success of his marriage - IIRC the speculation was that he was gay). I don't think that I knew she was Black (or half Black or whatever the correct modern terminology is) until close to the wedding. As with his dad (Lady Di) and uncle (Sarah Ferguson) the general opinion seemed to be that she was a much needed breath of fresh air.

So all this talk of victimhood leaves me cold. Their old website is still up and running so someone is paying GoDaddy or whoever, a year later. I hope Oprah asks about his visa status. I'd be really curious to know.

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If you haven’t seen the hate directed at Meghan, then you haven’t been paying attention. Care or care or not about the Royal Family, the fact that she is an African American has made many people lose their minds.

Andy, you regularly comment that you “don’t see“ hate and discrimination directed at people of color and women. I suggest that your validation is not necessary to legitimacy.
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If you haven’t seen the hate directed at Meghan, then you haven’t been paying attention.
Guilty as charged; I couldn't care less about the royal family and do not follow what they do (on the other hand, I am fascinated by the concept of royalty and how it works in a democracy, as well as the idea of hereditary succession and what, if any, rules govern, but that's a different thread)--likely a throw back to the fairy tales I read as a kid as well as books like Ivanhoe). But the hate wouldn't surprise me.

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Guinevere wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:22 pm
If you haven’t seen the hate directed at Meghan, then you haven’t been paying attention. Care or care or not about the Royal Family, the fact that she is an African American has made many people lose their minds. There is certainly unjustified hate being directed at Meghan in some quarters -Twitter, Facebook - since the whole 'stepping back' thing started. But the overall impression I got back when they started dating was favorable to both of them.

Andy, you regularly comment that you “don’t see“ hate and discrimination directed at people of color and women. ?? Really? Regularly? I know my memory isn't what it used to be but I am not sure what you are talking about. Do you have an example? One will do. I suggest that your validation is not necessary to legitimacy. I totally agree with that sentence. However, I do see much injustice - for example, I live in Louisville where Breonna Taylor was shot and killed by police - and my 'validation' (as you put it) does not subtract from the legitimacy of the anger many people here have.

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These are people of no interest whatsoever at all.

They have done nothing. Accomplished nothing.

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Meghan was not the first biracial royal. Queen Lizzy reportedly has a drop of African blood coursing about through her. https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontlin ... amily.html

That being said I strongly suspect that the extended royal family are all closet racists and caused Meghan to make a fast bolt for the door.

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rubato wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:11 am
These are people of no interest whatsoever at all.

They have done nothing. Accomplished nothing.

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Except for being an endless source of bewildered amusement.

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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Guinevere wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:22 pm
If you haven’t seen the hate directed at Meghan, then you haven’t been paying attention
No, I haven't seen it either. Facebook is not a good source for such things; none of my "friends" are Meghan-haters, which is nice. They don't seem enamored of royalty at all. Lost dogs/cats, photos of sunsets and jigsaw puzzles seem to rule the day.

I would have thought that foxworthiness would drown out "hate" just like (snap) that. So, whoever the mysterious haters are, I suspect a number are venting their disappointment at getting the finger from Harry and SWMBO. "You can jolly well stay in England because you've no choice; we're off to the Americas".

I do dislike Oprah (not as a person but as a TV personality with an appalling taste in literature, spirituality and fake medical doctors). I know - she's hurt by such rejection and may never recover her aplomb.
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rubato wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:11 am
These are people of no interest whatsoever at all.

They have done nothing. Accomplished nothing.

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Interest enough to draw you into this thread, one so obviously named you could be in no doubt as to the subject matter. In fact, it's of so much interest to you that it's the only thread you've replied to this visit.
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rubato wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:11 am
These are people of no interest whatsoever at all.

They have done nothing. Accomplished nothing.

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Well she was in a well-regarded (??) successful (??) series and presumably made a buck or two off it. Not Anniston or Streep level success; but she chose a profession and did well at it. So the comment that she accomplished nothing is idiotic uninformed.

The relationship between the British Royal Family and the people is a deal which dates back to 1215 and Magna Carta. Basically the barons told King John - who was not famous for his erudition, comely aspect or wokeness - "We'll let you carry on kinging provided we get due process, habeas corpus and mead; and you go easy on the droit de seigneur thing." (I'm paraphrasing.) In other words he was Boss in Name Only (BINO in today's parlance) but this was not to be construed that he was somehow best chap in the kingdom.

So Meghan and Harry were expected to walk about, shake lots of hands, open libraries and hospitals and bridges, look pretty in a uniform and/or nice frock, laugh at jokes even if the tenth time of hearing it, and we'd give them somewhere nice to live. They reneged on that deal.

For all their media savviness which apparently landed them a $$$$$ deal with Netflix, they seem to be innocents abroad. We have the Oprah interview scheduled with much fanfare; and Harry goes off and does a TV spot with James Corden on the bus. I'd be surprised if there was not some sort of clause in their Oprah contract expressly forbidding that sort of thing. She is said to be pissed. It's probably not a good idea to piss off Oprah when the interview is in the can but the editing is still to be done.

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Apparently the Firm is doing some advance damage control by announcing an investigation into Meghan's alleged abuse of staff, including such horrible stuff as sending emails to them at 5 AM. I'd give this more credibility if they had also announced an investigation into Prince Andrew raping underage girls at Jeffrey Epstein's pedophile pad.
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Speaking of Andy: if you think about the marriages and girlfriends of that lot over the years, about the only one who emerges without a whisper of negativity is Koo Stark, an American (gasp! horrors! clutches pearls!) actress invariably described as 'soft porn' from the 80s. Clearly unsuitable for Falklands war hero Andy (nationality and occupation are two strikes) but I've never heard a whisper of a tell-all book or an interview with Oprah or whatever. Maybe I wasn't paying attention.

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You're right, she disappeared without anyone hearing a peep out of her.

And I have to wonder, given that history, and their antecedent Wallis Simpson, whether it's as much an American thing as a Black thing that gets stuck in the collective British craw.
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From all the fuss it seems like the American public are just as enamored of the Royal soap opera.

I still think they'll announce Phil the Greek has carked it, just when Oprah airs over here.
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