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Bye-Bye American (Eskimo) Pie?

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:13 am
by dales
Eskimo Pie company vows change, calls branding derogatory
Hearst Television Published 4:49 pm PDT, Friday, June 19, 2020


The company behind the Eskimo Pie brand is vowing to change the name of the ice cream bar.

Reuters reported the brand's name and marketing would change. The announcement comes as several brands are making changes in response to concerns over racism.

"We are committed to being a part of the solution on racial equality, and recognize the term is derogatory,” Elizabell Marquez, a marketing head with the brand's parent company, Dreyer’s Grand Ice Cream, told news outlets.

"This move is part of a larger review to ensure our company and brands reflect our people values," she said.

The word has been noted for its racist history, even though the treat has been around since the early 1920s.

Other brands have made similar moves recently.

Quaker Oats announced Wednesday that it will retire the Aunt Jemima brand, saying the company recognizes the character’s origins are “based on a racial stereotype.”
The silliness continues unabated.

Re: Bye-Bye American (Eskimo) Pie?

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:27 am
by Scooter
So, because you are 50 or so years behind the curve in recognizing the word for the derogatory slur that it is, makes this "silly"?

Are you still calling people krauts, kikes and gooks?

Re: Bye-Bye American (Eskimo) Pie?

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:30 am
by dales
What a silly little man you are.

ETA: Eskimo means fish-eater and I know it can be construed as a derogatory term

Perhaps they should change the name to "Inuit Pie" instead, eh?

Re: Bye-Bye American (Eskimo) Pie?

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 1:08 am
by Joe Guy
Next we better change the name for fudge because the word has the potential to be used in many insulting and unflattering ways.

Bye-Bye American (Eskimo) Pie?

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 1:12 am
by RayThom
How about "Indigenous Circumpolar Peoples" Pies?

Re: Bye-Bye American (Eskimo) Pie?

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 2:26 am
by Scooter
Isn't it convenient not to care about using a race/ethnicity as a punch line because we know it will never happen to us.

Re: Bye-Bye American (Eskimo) Pie?

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 4:47 am
by Bicycle Bill
Next on the hit list?

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After all, if "Song of the South" is so racist and abhorrent that it must be locked away never to be seen or even mentioned again except as a prime example of hateful thinking and ignorant behavior (or is it ignorant thinking and horrid behavior?  I never can keep them straight!), then I suppose that any of the characters from that story must be bearing that same evil taint as well.
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Re: Bye-Bye American (Eskimo) Pie?

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:16 am
by MajGenl.Meade
How about, "Snowflake Pie"?

Maybe they'll try Polar Pie which will only annoy white bears and people who don't like the advertizing slogan - "buy Polar Pie"

Re: Bye-Bye American (Eskimo) Pie?

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:11 am
by Gob
I wonder which white middle-class snowflake complained that some people he's never met, and will never meet, may possibly be offended by the name?

Re: Bye-Bye American (Eskimo) Pie?

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:33 am
by Bicycle Bill
Klondike Bars are better anyway.

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Re: Bye-Bye American (Eskimo) Pie?

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 4:27 pm
by BoSoxGal
This board is thick with racists.

Re: Bye-Bye American (Eskimo) Pie?

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 4:56 pm
by Bicycle Bill
BoSoxGal wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 4:27 pm
This board is thick with racists.
You know, gal, I think some day you should look up the difference between "racist" and "prejudiced".  Although people tend to use them interchangeably, they do not have the same meaning.  Someone can be prejudiced against someone or some group without being racist/homophobic/a member of Antifa/whatever.  And you, as a lawyer — present or former, I don't care — should know that.
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Re: Bye-Bye American (Eskimo) Pie?

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 4:59 pm
by Scooter
Intentionally choosing to continue using racist terminology when their derogatory nature is known, pretty sure that's textbook racist.

Re: Bye-Bye American (Eskimo) Pie?

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:04 pm
by Bicycle Bill
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Is it OK to still call this a Baked Alaska?
Or do we have to change it to a "Baked (whatever word the native Iñupiat, Yupik, Aleut, Eyak, Tlingit, Haida, Tsimshian, or other indigenous-to-the-area Athabascan peoples called that particular geographic locality)"?
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Re: Bye-Bye American (Eskimo) Pie?

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:37 pm
by Scooter
Is this level of dumbass fuckwit an act? What I mean is, do you have to work at it, or is it a product of the fact that your family decided dozens of generations ago that brother-sister marriages were the preferred pairing to produce children of the desired degree of idiocy?

Re: Bye-Bye American (Eskimo) Pie?

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:46 pm
by Bicycle Bill
Scooter wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 4:59 pm
Intentionally choosing to continue using racist terminology when their derogatory nature is known, pretty sure that's textbook racist.
To quote George Carlin:   "There are no bad words.  Bad thoughts.  Bad intentions.  And woooords."

What makes a perfectly good word — like mulatto, for example, a Spanish loan-word to describe someone who has one white parent and one black parent — so abhorrent that we dare not even utter it?  Why do we have to tap-dance our way through a minefield when we try to describe an ethnic or racial group?  You dassn't dare call anyone who is descended from the people who were here to meet the Mayflower 'redskins' or even 'Indians', and if you try to use the name for their particular tribal identity you need a Jeopardy champion's memory to keep them all straight.  No wonder we have already skipped past "Native Americans" and are currently defaulting to "indigenous peoples".  'Negro' is out.  'Colored' is also a no-no (even though the NAACP uses the word in their name).  And don't even consider using the word 'nigger'.

And while I'm on my little soapbox, just what is it that makes a word like "nigger" absolutely, totally forbidden to persons of one background but OK for person of another?  As a male of European ancestry I'm not permitted to use the word the word under any circumstance — in fact, I don't believe I'm allowed to even THINK of the word any more, but someone who has an overabundance of melanin in their skin can use the hell out of it — as an epithet, as a greeting, as a alternative word for close personal friends, it makes no never mind.  Seriously, that's like saying that only a Jew can refer to himself as a 'kike' or a 'Hebe', or only Germans get to call themselves 'Krauts'.

Or is this just the next step on our way to Orwell's "Nineteen Eighty-Four"?  We're already turning history into propaganda, so now it must be time to step up the indoctrination and subjugation (oops, almost said slavery!) of the people and accelerate the implementation of the American version of Newspeak.
Scooter wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:37 pm
Is this level of dumbass fuckwit an act? What I mean is, do you have to work at it, or is it a product of the fact that your family decided dozens of generations ago that brother-sister marriages were the preferred pairing to produce children of the desired degree of idiocy?
Scooter, you need to move south ASAP.  I'm afraid you've been outside playing hockey without a helmet in those cold Canadian winters too long, and it has permanently affected your brain.
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Re: Bye-Bye American (Eskimo) Pie?

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:55 pm
by Scooter
Bicycle Bill wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:46 pm
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Re: Bye-Bye American (Eskimo) Pie?

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:21 pm
by rubato
They call themselves Inuits not Eskimo. And besides, it is only disrespectful if they say so. Has anyone asked them or is this just racism of a different kind, pretending to.speak for them? “Poor little fellows, too cold to think for themselves”

Yrs,
Rubato

Re: Bye-Bye American (Eskimo)

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:33 pm
by rubato
Eskimo is a European misnomer for Inuit. It is not racist, it is just wrong, like calling Ethiopia Abyssinia.

Pseudo liberals having worked themselves into a good lather of anti -racism need to find new people to hate ( like the recent bizarre attacks on jk Rowling). Since Scandinavians are entitled not to object to the Minnesota Vikings name Inuits are entitled not to object to this;

Yrs,
Rubato

Re: Bye-Bye American (Eskimo) Pie?

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:39 pm
by Scooter
The Inuit Circumpolar Council adopted "Inuit" as an umbrella term in 1977, although the Yupik of Alaska and Siberia have resisted it because it bears no relationship to their language. Unsurprisingly, they prefer to call themselves Yupik.