For those who leapt up on the outrage bandwagon

[TPFKA@W]

over Bubba and his noose tale: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 245722001/

Following an investigation, the FBI concluded that the noose found in Bubba Wallace's No. 43 Richard Petty Motorsports garage stall at Talladega Superspeedway on Sunday was not a federal crime, the U.S. attorney and FBI announced Tuesday afternoon.

"On Monday, fifteen FBI special agents conducted numerous interviews regarding the situation at Talladega Superspeedway," the joint statement from U.S. Attorney Jay E. Town and FBI Special Agent in Charge Johnnie Sharp, Jr. "After a thorough review of the facts and evidence surrounding this event, we have concluded that no federal crime was committed.

"The FBI learned that garage number 4, where the noose was found, was assigned to Bubba Wallace last week. The investigation also revealed evidence, including authentic video confirmed by NASCAR, that the noose found in garage number 4 was in that garage as early as October 2019. Although the noose is now known to have been in garage number 4 in 2019, nobody could have known Mr. Wallace would be assigned to garage number 4 last week.

The decision not to pursue federal charges is proper after reviewing all available facts and all applicable federal laws. We offer our thanks to NASCAR, Mr. Wallace, and everyone who cooperated with this investigation.”

SMDH.

[Econoline]

It's Alabama. Everybody always keeps a noose handy for whenever they might need it.

[dales]

A noose made of twine was just discovered at Sonoma Raceway.

What is it with the Motorsports crowd?

[Joe Guy]

over Bubba and his noose tale:.....
SMDH.

So what you're saying is this is old noose.

[RayThom]

Thereby hangs a tale.

This could have been much worse. Somebody could have slipped on some Mobil 1 and met a scary fate.

[Bicycle Bill]

A noose made of twine was just discovered at Sonoma Raceway.

What is it with the Motorsports crowd?

Well, in all honesty, have you ever tried to tie a bowline to make a loop in something?  Hell's bells, when I was in Boy Scouts and doing our knot-tying there was always one weisenheimer who would always do a noose and insist that "I was trying to tie a bowline, honest!!"
(for the uneducated they are two entirely different knots; it was easy to tell the kid was just trying to be a smart-ass ... and for the most part, we would just let it go.)

It also was considered the height of rebellion to mark swastikas on things. Were we going it because we were pro-Nazi, or young fascists, or white supremacists? Fuck, no!! We did it because we knew it would piss off the teachers and parents, and that's what we were going for.

-"BB"-

[Scooter]

over Bubba and his noose tale

It was not "his" noose tale. NASCAR officials came to him and told him what they found in the garage space assigned to him. It wasn't him that discovered it or reported its finding.

And regardless of when it was put there, pictures and video of it clearly show that it was a noose, not a "garage pull" or some other kind of knotted rope that some claiming in an effort to discredit Wallace over a situation that he did absolutely nothing to create.

[TPFKA@W]

over Bubba and his noose tale

It was not "his" noose tale. NASCAR officials came to him and told him what they found in the garage space assigned to him. It wasn't him that discovered it or reported its finding.

And regardless of when it was put there, pictures and video of it clearly show that it was a noose, not a "garage pull" or some other kind of knotted rope that some claiming in an effort to discredit Wallace over a situation that he did absolutely nothing to create.

Regardless of what your narrow mind chooses as the narrative here it is Bubba’s tale to tell which includes how all the drivers rallied around to offer support. At no point did I say Bubba himself broke or created the story . But you have to be offended because that is your fucking super power.

[Scooter]

I don't know where you get that I am "offended". I just find it interesting (and predictable) that the narrative in certain circles in the aftermath has been to turn this back on Wallace, as if he personally made it all up

[Econoline]

I have no trouble believing that it was both a noose AND a garage door pull rope. I think in Alabama (and probably Mississippi too) they feel like if you've got a rope around anywhere, you oughta just tie it in a noose...just to save time later, ya know???

(Hey, if the stereotype fits, hang it up on the door, right?)

[TPFKA@W]

I don't know where you get that I am "offended". I just find it interesting (and predictable) that the narrative in certain circles in the aftermath has been to turn this back on Wallace, as if he personally made it all up

Really, it some kind of deep mystery as to why I infer offense taking in your writing? You come across as a deeply angry man who is always looking for a reason to pounce on people for their reactions or opinions. It is as if you experience an orgasm every time you get to react that way. So really there is no mystery here. You thought you saw an "in" for that reaction with what I posted creating a scenario in your mind where I said Bubba was in the wrong here, or even implied it. I did not. I was irritated by the media and how it took this and ran with it. Bubba is in the clear. Please dismount your high horse and shoot it.

[Scooter]

You have clearly decided to suddenly make it your mission to jump on every word that I say and twist it for your own purposes. Whatever. I'll engage with it to the extent that I find it interesting or entertaining, and ignore it when it is not.

[TPFKA@W]

You have clearly decided to suddenly make it your mission to jump on every word that I say and twist it for your own purposes. Whatever. I'll engage with it to the extent that I find it interesting or entertaining, and ignore it when it is not.

No now, you are projecting, the twist it for your own purposes is what you do, virtually every time.

As to you engaging, I have no fucks to give on that account. Adious!

[MajGenl.Meade]

At least nobody played the race car(d)

[dales]

Good one, Genl.

[Econoline]

At least nobody played the race car(d)

(image found on the Facebook feed of one of my racist right-wing in-laws)

[Econoline]

Here's the comment I posted in response to the above image:

FWIW: Bubba Wallace was not involved at all in the discovery or the reporting of the noose.

A member of his (Richard Petty Motorsports) pit crew saw the noose, and before he even said anything to anyone else he walked up and down the garages (there were about 10 of them in the same building) to see if any other stall had the same thing; he found that every other garage pull had no knot, just a single piece of rope. He brought it to the attention of his crew chief, who reported it to (NASCAR series director) Jay Fabian, who went to (NASCAR president) Steve Phelps, who then reported it to both the FBI and to Bubba Wallace. So if you want to blame somebody for this, there are about 5 people in line ahead of Wallace.

And he said, "I've been racing all my life. We've raced out of hundreds of garages that never had garage pulls like that."

My garage doesn't have a noose for a door pull. Does yours?

link: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nascar/ ... CuUREBiOkI

[RayThom]

Any word on the person who assigned "garage #4" to Bubba?

Regardless, this incident heightens our need to be more aware of our inherent racism, which often hits most of us white people below the level of our awareness.

You can't fix what you don't acknowledge.

[TPFKA@W]

Here's the comment I posted in response to the above image:

FWIW: Bubba Wallace was not involved at all in the discovery or the reporting of the noose.

A member of his (Richard Petty Motorsports) pit crew saw the noose, and before he even said anything to anyone else he walked up and down the garages (there were about 10 of them in the same building) to see if any other stall had the same thing; he found that every other garage pull had no knot, just a single piece of rope. He brought it to the attention of his crew chief, who reported it to (NASCAR series director) Jay Fabian, who went to (NASCAR president) Steve Phelps, who then reported it to both the FBI and to Bubba Wallace. So if you want to blame somebody for this, there are about 5 people in line ahead of Wallace.

And he said, "I've been racing all my life. We've raced out of hundreds of garages that never had garage pulls like that."

My garage doesn't have a noose for a door pull. Does yours?

link: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nascar/ ... CuUREBiOkI

What I read said there were a couple of other pulls with similar noose knots and that they had been there several years. I expects someone just tied it that way and without racial hatred motivation. Standing there bored and just did it. Sometimes things just ARE with no ulterior motivation.

I have to say though, it sure brought him a lot of attention, for better or for worse.

[Econoline]

I expects someone just tied it that way and without racial hatred motivation. Standing there bored and just did it. Sometimes things just ARE with no ulterior motivation.

In Alabama? In a place (Talladega) where flying the Stars & Bars is commonplace and (white) people are angry about maybe having to give it up? C'mon. *EVERY* black person in Alabama know what a noose means, and if there are some whites who don't, that is absolutely inexcusable. (And yeah, I'm sure that occasionally there are also yoots standing around, bored, in the Jewish section of a graveyard, with no ulterior motivation, doodling absentmindedly with a can of black spray paint, with no idea of the meaning of the symbol that came out of the can...)

Any word on the person who assigned "garage #4" to Bubba?

Good question.

Regardless, this incident heightens our need to be more aware of our inherent racism, which often hits most of us white people below the level of our awareness.

You can't fix what you don't acknowledge.

Yup.