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Not the brightest of people, are they?
Anti-vaccination protesters who attempted to serve spurious legal papers to the former England football captain Alan Shearer delivered the documents to the wrong house, it has emerged.

The former Newcastle United and Blackburn Rovers striker had encouraged people to get a Covid booster jab in a video promoted by the Premier League last week.

His stance prompted anti-vaccination protesters to film themselves on Wednesday outside an address near Newcastle that they believed to be his home.

In the video shared on social media, three men and a woman gathered outside a gated property and after pressing an electronic buzzer, one of them posted documents into an external letterbox.

Anti-vaccination activists routinely share templates of supposed legal documents that they then film themselves depositing.

However, a person who lives locally and saw the footage told the PA news agency: “That’s an old address they have for him.”

In the video, the man who posted the documents says: “Everyone is going to get this, every celebrity, sick of yous. Just causing more trouble for us, lies, all lying.

“That’s the truth in that letterbox there, in Alan Shearer’s fucking house.”

Northumbria police said it had no involvement in the incident.
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I wonder what kind of "legal documents" these were. When they can't even get the address right, I doubt they'd know what a legal document was or its effect if properly served.

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Spot on.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”

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More bleach.
An anti-vaxx kickboxing champion who was known as The Undertaker has died aged 41 after denying he had Covid-19 and discharging himself from hospital to treat 'the little virus' with oxygen.

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Frederic Sinistra died of complications relating to the virus in Ciney, Belgium, weeks after discharging himself from a hospital in Liege and telling followers he would treat his symptoms from home.

The three-time world champion was admitted to hospital in late November after being forced to seek medical help by his coach and posted pictures of himself lying in bed in an intensive care ward with an oxygen tube in his nose.


Sinistra also posted a video on Facebook in which he appeared to be struggling to breathe and wrote in an accompanying caption that he had 'no time to waste with lazy people'.

He railed against government restrictions to contain Covid-19, dismissed the virus and said the 'little virus' would not stop him in social media posts while in hospital.

Sinistra was active online until December 13 but he died after going into cardiac arrest on December 15. His partner announced his passing the next day.
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He doesn't look like a left-footer

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Any lawyers here who will explain the concept 'mitigation' and health insurance?

In other forms of casualty insurance the insured party is expected to take ordinary steps to reduce the total damage from an event covered by insurance.

I hear and read from many sources that there is now about 15% of the USofA population that will not get a Covid vaccination, no matter what. That is a relative minority, but in aggregate it is alot of people.

If they refuse to get a vaccination and are hospitalized, why is not this principle of mitigation requiring them to pay a significant portion of the cost of their care?

My brother died about two weeks ago of Covid complications. He was in the high risk group for many factors and never vaccinated. Now his widow proudly states she is not and never will be vaccinated, even though she also is high risk.

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I am far from an expert on this, but my understanding is that, because health insurance is so heavily regulated, health insurers cannot refuse to insure (at least for most group policies) or charge more for people at risk in the same was as, say, a life insurer could do. In some ways this does make sense, since we all benefit if people are covered by health insurance and seek medical care, and limiting health insurance only to healthy people who meet certain criteria (be it being vaccinated, having a weight within certain parameters, taking medication, etc.) could be unwieldy and could deter people from seeking medical help in general. Since the groups are so large, the risk is spread among all the insured. I would think not providing coverage (even covid 19 coverage) for people who are not vaccinated could create a bigger public health crisis if the sick do not seek medical aid.

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If this has been posted before, I didn't see it.

America’s highest 2021 COVID death rates, according to
@JohnsHopkins
, through 12/21:
1. Oklahoma (248 per 100,000)
2. Alabama (230)
3. West Virginia (216)
4. Arizona (208)
5. Kentucky (205)



America’s lowest 2021 COVID death rates, according to
@JohnsHopkins
, through 12/21:
1. Vermont (50 per 100,000)
2. Hawaii (54)
3. Puerto Rico (54)
4. Utah (75)
5. New Hampshire (81)
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I wonder what’s behind Puerto Rico’s numbers
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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They also had a very active public health service; when I was there in May 2020 for my MIL's funeral, they had all restaurants and offices closed, permitted supermarkets to open for only a few hours a day, and had an enforced dusk to dawn curfew (with big fines for violating it). For travel from the US, they now require a negative covid PCR test no more than 48 hours before the flight and a seven day quarantine for all unvaccinated passengers; international travel is more stringent. Given the sad state of there hospitals and lack of physicians and nurses (another thread sometimes) these policies make sense for them.

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A charming little serenade for all the anti-vaxxers who haven't died (yet):

People who are wrong are just as sure they're right as people who are right. The only difference is, they're wrong.
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I’m currently sitting unmasked in a half full diner waiting on my greasy spoon breakfast. This is my third such visit to a diner in the last few weeks - I used to take myself out for breakfast about once a week, it’s been a habit for decades. My first time a few weeks ago was my first time stepping in a restaurant in two years.

I’m not sure why I’ve gone off the skids this way - had a very difficult Thanksgiving/Xmas season and just struggling with pandemic fatigue. Yes I am fully vaxxed including booster, but it’s probably not wise just the same as I’m sure half the folks in here aren’t vaxxed the rate in my area is still well south of 60%.

It’s just so nice to be surrounded by chattering people and friendly waitrons filling my coffee cup whilst I post on my phone to youse guys.

Oh well we all have to die sometime.
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Interesting aside; last night I heard Puerto Rico now has the highest infection and hospitalization rate for covid in the US; I googled but cannot find the actual data. Apparently hospitalizations are high as well, which is not surprising since a good portion of the population is elderly (since the last hurricane). Death rates are relatively steady (also not surprising because of the high vaccination rate). They do have significant problems, however, as many doctors and hospital employees left after the last hurricane; my wife has an older (around 88) aunt who lives there alone (she does have some distant family and friends who look in on her), and even a doctors visit is an ordeal--they generally do not take appointments (maybe in the bigger cities they do) and people begin lining up around 6:00 AM to see the doctor (who opens at 9:00)--it can be an all-day wait. Hospitals have a problem as well; there are large waits and anyone who comes must bring their own sheets, blankets, gowns, and toiletries (they can sell you what you do not have; families are also responsible for doing the laundry each day and bringing in clean sheets, gowns, etc.) ; they are incredibly understaffed. This in a system paid for by the same medicare most of our elderly are covered by. Without the high vaccination rate, I would be surprised if the death toll was much, much higher.

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BoSoxGal wrote:
Wed Dec 29, 2021 3:10 pm
I’m not sure why I’ve gone off the skids this way - had a very difficult Thanksgiving/Xmas season and just struggling with pandemic fatigue. Yes I am fully vaxxed including booster, but it’s probably not wise just the same as I’m sure half the folks in here aren’t vaxxed the rate in my area is still well south of 60%.
Everyone makes their own evaluation of risk/benefit. You've done the big things you can do for yourself with the vaccines, and no doubt have cut way back on things that would have been normal two years ago. It is okay to be human and enjoy yourself. Be well.

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Agreed; without some joy, life wouldn't be worth very much. Don't be stupid, but try to seize that joy sometimes.

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These new guidelines (said to be in response to screams of help from the health and the aviation industries) to self quarantine for five days if you have covid and are asymptomatic, then always wear a mask for another 5 days.

Do these people know what 'asymptomatic' means? This only will work if the individual is testing at least once a day, every day.

Huh?

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NYS Dept of Health is prioritizing administration of scarce monoclonal antibody drugs and Pfizer's Paxlovid to the who need it most. Must have mild to moderate symptoms and other factors (e.g., medical conditions) that increase their risk.

And, their guidance memo notes:
Non-white race or Hispanic/Latino ethnicity should be considered a risk factor as longstanding systemic health and social inequities have contributed to an increased risk of severe illness and death from COVID-19
I think that last point is non-controversial and has been shown to be true a number of times, and was evident very early on in the pandemic when NYC was the worst place in the world to be.

Of course the Daily Mail takes pains to totally fucking misread the memo and rile up its readership:
White people in NY are told not to attempt to get monoclonal antibody treatment from doctors because Gov. Hochul has prioritized it for non-whites
it screams using its largest typeface. Maybe Meghan Markle will sue them again and this time I will applaud her.

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They could at least offer free Viagra (not that I could put that to any use at the moment).
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