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For Comrade Sue, something to that will make her proud

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:41 pm
by liberty
The Uighurs are the Caucasian people of western China, but I don’t think they will be around much longer. In three or four more generations, that might be all it takes to wipe out their language, religion, and appearance. Many of them now look like Han. I wonder how much of a contribution those Han uncles that are required to live with Uighurs families are making to the change. The Han uncles have the power to send the family or at least the men to a concentration camp, so if they want to have their way with the women of the family what can the men do about it?

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/202 ... ur-policy/

Baby-making machines”: Chinese tweet on Uighurs not against Twitter rules
Twitter bans "the dehumanization of a group of people" based on ethnicity.

TIMOTHY B. LEE - 1/7/2021, 10:45 PM

twitter has told Ars Technica that a Chinese government tweet praising China's treatment of its Uighur ethnic minority does not violate its policy against hateful conduct.

"Study shows that in the process of eradicating extremism, the minds of Uygur women in Xinjiang were emancipated and gender equality and reproductive health were promoted, making them no longer baby-making machines," the tweet says. "They are more confident and independent."

Human rights advocates have characterized China's treatment of the Uighur people in the Xinjiang region of China as a demographic genocide. Here's how the Associated Press described China's approach last summer:
The state regularly subjects minority women to pregnancy checks, and forces intrauterine devices, sterilization and even abortion on hundreds of thousands, interviews and data show. Even while the use of IUDs and sterilization has fallen nationwide, it is rising sharply in Xinjiang.

The population control measures are backed by mass detention both as a threat and as a punishment for failure to comply. Having too many children is a major reason people are sent to detention camps, the AP found, with the parents of three or more ripped away from their families unless they can pay huge fines. Police raid homes, terrifying parents as they search for hidden children.

Re: For Comrade Sue, something to that will make her proud

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:50 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
Complete and utter bullshit

Re: For Comrade Sue, something to that will make her proud

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:38 pm
by liberty
MajGenl.Meade wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:50 pm
Complete and utter bullshit
You don’t think it is happening; you think it is all propaganda and lies. I didn’t know that you are a communist Chinese supporter.

Re: For Comrade Sue, something to that will make her proud

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:50 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
Study shows that in the process of eradicating extremism, the minds of Uygur women in Xinjiang were emancipated and gender equality and reproductive health were promoted, making them no longer baby-making machines," the tweet says. "They are more confident and independent."
If you believe such turgid shit was written as an official "position" of the Twitter barons, then you are a totally rancid pillock (oh wait . . .)

Re: For Comrade Sue, something to that will make her proud

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:15 pm
by BoSoxGal
MajGenl.Meade wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:50 pm
Study shows that in the process of eradicating extremism, the minds of Uygur women in Xinjiang were emancipated and gender equality and reproductive health were promoted, making them no longer baby-making machines," the tweet says. "They are more confident and independent."
If you believe such turgid shit was written as an official "position" of the Twitter barons, then you are a totally rancid pillock (oh wait . . .)
It’s not their official position, their official position is that the tweet doesn’t violate their terms and conditions on hate speech. It’s right in the text.

Are you feeling ok today?
twitter has told Ars Technica that a Chinese government tweet praising China's treatment of its Uighur ethnic minority does not violate its policy against hateful conduct.

"Study shows that in the process of eradicating extremism, the minds of Uygur women in Xinjiang were emancipated and gender equality and reproductive health were promoted, making them no longer baby-making machines," the tweet says. "They are more confident and independent."
That second paragraph quotes the Chinese government tweet. The CCP is saying that Uygur women are reduced to being breeders under their own cultural framework. It’s pretty standard communist propaganda, isn’t it?

Re: For Comrade Sue, something to that will make her proud

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:17 pm
by Econoline
Update, 11:30pm EST: Twitter has now removed the tweet.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/01/twitter-takes-down-chinas-baby-making-machines-tweet-on-uighur-women/



Also (from liberty's original link):
Twitter's rules are vague enough that it's hard to say for sure whether the tweet violates the letter of the policies. It doesn't explicitly call for violence against the Uighur minority. Indeed, it insists that the Uighurs haven't been victims of violence or dehumanization at all. At the same time, claiming that Uighur women were being held back by "extremist" views that turned them into "baby-making machines" does seem rather dehumanizing. And Twitter might want to take into account not only the literal words of the tweet but also the broader context of the Chinese government's actions in the Xinjiang region.
...which explains why it took a while before Twitter took action.

Re: For Comrade Sue, something to that will make her proud

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:11 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
BoSoxGal wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:15 pm

Are you feeling ok today?
Oh. I thought that tweet was alleged to be from Twitter explaining why they didn't ban something else.

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Re: For Comrade Sue, something to that will make her proud

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:19 pm
by liberty
I can’t post this, but check out; it was meant to be funny. What do you think? Don’t get outraged the Chinese are just the way they are, and they are not going to change; they don’t care what barbarians think?


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-36394917

Sorry I can't get it to work you will have to search for it: What's behind China's 'racist' whitewashing advert? - BBC News

Re: For Comrade Sue, something to that will make her proud

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:02 pm
by Sue U
Why is this thread directed at me? Have I ever said I support China's policies toward its Uyghur minority? In fact, virtually all Jews across both the denominational and political spectrums uniformly condemn China's treatment of the Uyghurs and have been actively involved protesting an apparent cultural genocide.
liberty wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:41 pm
The Uighurs are the Caucasian people of western China,
I know you desperately want this to be about how oppressed Caucasians are, but Uyghurs are genetically a mix of central Asian and East Asian lineages. Fundamentally, though, they are Uyghurs, with their own ethnicity, geography and culture. The conflict with the Han Chinese has been going on for decades and has economic and geopolitical roots as well as cultural and ethnic ones. But this latest mass incarceration is an international human rights violation.

Re: For Comrade Sue, something to that will make her proud

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:06 am
by Gob
Yeah, but facts and that, you know....