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A legal question, how can one person be responsible for another person committing suicide?

https://www.clarionledger.com/story/new ... 340052002/

Family of man found hanging on tree at MS home gets $11M in civil suit (clarionledger.com)
The family of a 21-year-old Black man found hanging from a tree in his girlfriend's Scott County yard three years ago will be awarded $11 million in a civil suit related to his death.
Willie Jones Jr., 21, was found hanging from a tree in front of girlfriend Alexis Rankin's home the night of Feb. 8, 2018.
Jones' family sued Rankin, her stepfather and several others for not acting to prevent Jones' death, according to court documents filed in December 2020 in the Hinds County Circuit Court. The lawsuit alleged stepfather Harold O'Bryant, with the help of others, either hanged Jones or failed to stop Jones from taking his own life.

The story lib linked goes on to say:

Evidence found during an independent investigation — done by the Bellinder Law Firm, Jefferson and the People’s Advocacy Institute, a Mississippi based organization dedicated to transformative justice in the South — contradicted an initial ruling of suicide.

Maybe had you read to the end of the story you might have answered your own question, lib.

ex-khobar Andy wrote: ↑

Thu May 13, 2021 3:55 am

The story lib linked goes on to say:

Evidence found during an independent investigation — done by the Bellinder Law Firm, Jefferson and the People’s Advocacy Institute, a Mississippi based organization dedicated to transformative justice in the South — contradicted an initial ruling of suicide.

Maybe had you read to the end of the story you might have answered your own question, lib.

But, I only asked one question, and I said nothing about any murder. I repeat, can one person, a private citizen, be responsible for another person committing suicide?

liberty wrote: ↑

Thu May 13, 2021 4:20 am

But, I only asked one question, and I said nothing about any murder. I repeat, can one person, a private citizen, be responsible for another person committing suicide?

No, you asked:

liberty wrote: ↑

Thu May 13, 2021 2:48 am

A legal question, how can one person be responsible for another person committing suicide?

Your most recent question is a new one.

Regards,

-Joe Guy, backpedal pointer outer

Why don't you work it out, lib and then come back and tell us?

That summa cum laude associate's degree from the University of East Butt Crack is sure showing its worth.

In response to your question, the answer is, of course. I can think of any number of fact patterns that could make the person for the suicide of another, from the mental health professional who ignores the warning signs/suicide threats of his patient to the CIA officer who secretly doses the person with a mind altering drug that leads to the suicide. Like everything else, it depends on the facts of the situation

Which reminds me... Remember the Michelle Carter case?

She didn't do much time but she was convicted of involuntary manslaughter.

Joe Guy wrote: ↑

Thu May 13, 2021 6:55 pm

Which reminds me... Remember the Michelle Carter case?

She didn't do much time but she was convicted of involuntary manslaughter.

Is there any evidence that they manipulated him into suicide?

Since you all are having trouble with the question, I will restate it: Would a girlfriend be legally responsible if she ended the relationship and the boyfriend committed suicide?

liberty wrote: ↑

Fri May 14, 2021 2:39 am

Since you all are having trouble with the question, I will restate it: Would a girlfriend be legally responsible if she ended the relationship and the boyfriend committed suicide?

That's not a restated question. It's a different question than your first two.

Do you really need to ask it?

liberty wrote: ↑

Fri May 14, 2021 2:39 am

Since you all are having trouble with the question, I will restate it: Would a girlfriend be legally responsible if she ended the relationship and the boyfriend committed suicide?

Tell you what.  You let your girlfriend break up with you, and then you go ahead and commit suicide.
We'll let the courts sort it out then.

-"BB"-

liberty wrote: ↑

Fri May 14, 2021 2:39 am

Since you all are having trouble with the question, I will restate it: Would a girlfriend be legally responsible if she ended the relationship and the boyfriend committed suicide?

You tell me.

And while we are at it, can a vest have sleeves and still be a vest? But even more to your question, what do you mean as "legally responsible"? Are we talking about criminal or civil liability or is there something else? In which jurisdiction? We could go on and on, which it appears is what you want.

Big RR wrote: ↑

Fri May 14, 2021 2:05 pm

And while we are at it, can a vest have sleeves and still be a vest? But even more to your question, what do you mean as "legally responsible"? Are we talking about criminal or civil liability or is there something else? In which jurisdiction? We could go on and on, which it appears is what you want.

My concern is about civil and criminal penalties, not personal or social. It is a bad president to set that holds people responsible for not acting unless they chose a profession that requires specific actions such as a teacher or social working.

If the woman can be held legally liable for the man's action, she is a slave; she can't break off the relationship without his permission. If he commits suicide or injured himself, is it right to punish her? I think people should be responsible for their actions.

If you have anything to add that is related in any way, go ahead. Unlike liberals, leftist or communist, I don't wish to inhibit free thought. Sorry about the redundancy.

Your concern is about some artificial notion you've cooked up in your head. What woman are you referring to and what were the circumstances? Why do you specific a woman as the cause and a male as the victim? Why not ask if a man can be held liable for an ex-girlpal topping herself?

On second thoughts, don't. And that's precedent - we had a bad president from Jan 2017 to Jan 2021

liberty wrote: ↑

Fri May 14, 2021 2:38 am

Joe Guy wrote: ↑

Thu May 13, 2021 6:55 pm

Which reminds me... Remember the Michelle Carter case?

She didn't do much time but she was convicted of involuntary manslaughter.

Is there any evidence that they manipulated him into suicide?

Well the court seemed to think so. She was sentenced to 2 1/2 years of which she served about 1 year.

liberty wrote: ↑

Fri May 14, 2021 2:38 am

Is there any evidence that they manipulated him into suicide?

You can't trust those binary people.

MajGenl.Meade wrote: ↑

Fri May 14, 2021 3:50 pm

Your concern is about some artificial notion you've cooked up in your head. What woman are you referring to and what were the circumstances? Why do you specific a woman as the cause and a male as the victim? Why not ask if a man can be held liable for an ex-girlpal topping herself?

On second thoughts, don't. And that's precedent - we had a bad president from Jan 2017 to Jan 2021

I wish it were you instead of me, but I can console myself with the fact that you will die gasping for breath while I can breathe just fine. I might not be able to see worth a damn, but at least I can breathe.

When did Meade stop breathing?