Racist Police in liberal Massachusetts harassing blacks

[liberty]

'Moorish American Arms' Group in Standoff With Police After Traffic Stop (msn.com)

Police in Massachusetts have been involved in a standoff with a group of armed men whose vehicles had stopped on the side of an interstate highway near Boston. The group has been described by some media outlets as "Moorish American Arms."
© Maddie Meyer/Getty An illustrative image of a member of the Massachusetts State Police pictured in 2015.
The incident started when a state trooper came across a group of up to 10 people refueling in the breakdown lane of I-95 in Wakefield, near Boston at around 1.30 a.m.

Its members were wearing military-style uniforms, with guns slung over their shoulders and carrying body cameras and helmets. They soon headed into the nearby woods as the trooper called for backup, CBS Boston reported.
In a statement issued just after 5 a.m. local time, Wakefield Police Department said during a motor vehicle stop "several heavily armed men claiming to be from a group that does not recognize our laws exited their vehicles and fled into the woodline."
The scene, from a distance, looking northbound on Rt 95/128. https://t.co/WXEWjCvmdk pic.twitter.com/kkY3nHkJbt
— Mass State Police (@MassStatePolice) July 3, 2021

It said that "approximately eight males fled into the woods carrying rifles and handguns" adjacent to the highway and that although "no threats were made" it added that "these men should be considered armed and dangerous."
However, in a video shared on the YouTube channel called "Rise of the Moors", one man addressing the camera on Interstate 95 said that despite media reports, it was not an anti-government group.

"We are not anti-government, we are not anti-police, we are not sovereign citizens, we are not black identity extremists," he said, adding that the group was abiding by the peaceable journey laws of the country, apparently referring to the transportation of firearms across states.

On its website, Rise of the Moors states that "when we declare our nationality as Moorish Americans we are taking back the position as the aboriginal people of the land, to which the sovereign power is vested in." It is unclear if the group in the Wakefield standoff follows this doctrine.

Two suspects have been arrested by members of @NEMLEC on North Ave, Wakefield. MSP has taken custody of and transported them to one of our barracks. The situation is ongoing w/remaining members of the group. We continue to work to resolve the situation peacefully. https://t.co/1bZWM1vYKS
— Mass State Police (@MassStatePolice) July 3, 2021



Massachusetts State Police, who were also at the scene, warned residents in Wakefield and Reading to shelter in place, and roads near I-95 in Wakefield were closed off on Saturday morning. As yet, no shots are reported to have been fired.
Police said there were "several armed persons" who were "refusing to comply with orders to provide their information and put down their weapons."

State Police Col. Christopher Mason said, according to ABC News: "They told officials they were on their way to Maine from Rhode Island for training."

State police later tweeted that two suspects had been arrested by members of the North Eastern Massachusetts Law Enforcement Council (NEMLEC) on North Ave, Wakefield and had been taken "to one of our barracks. "
"The situation is ongoing w/remaining members of the group. We continue to work to resolve the situation peacefully," the tweet added.

Former Boston Police Commissioner, Ed Davis, told CBS Boston that the group was "armed and dangerous," adding, "you don't know how far people like this are willing to go."

Meanwhile, Massachusetts State Police, which Newsweek has contacted for further comment, tweeted at 9.30 a.m Saturday: "We continue to engage the suspects in conversation in an effort to de-escalate the situation on 95 and bring it to a peaceful end."

[Joe Guy]

Please explain what you believe to be racist in this situation.

[liberty]

Please explain what you believe to be racist in this situation.

These men are black men, and the Police, a tool of racist oppression, is harassing them for exercising their second amendment rights. What else do you need to know?

[Joe Guy]

These men are black men, and the Police, a tool of racist oppression, is harassing them for exercising their second amendment rights. What else do you need to know?

Are you saying the police wouldn't have done the same thing if those people were white?

If so, you're wrong.

[Bicycle Bill]

Please explain what you believe to be racist in this situation.

These men are black men, and the Police, a tool of racist oppression, is harassing them for exercising their second amendment rights. What else do you need to know?

And yet, in your sig line (cut-and-pasted below; emphasis mine for effect)

I expected to be placed in an air force combat position such as security police, forward air control, pararescue or E.O.D. I would have liked dog handler. I had heard about the dog Nemo and was highly impressed. “SFB” is sad I didn’t end up in E.O.D.

you admit that you were looking forward to becoming one of those jack-booted minions yourself ... even to the point of being in charge of vicious animals to be used against anyone perceived as a 'threat'.

-"BB"-

[ex-khobar Andy]

I think (maybe I mean hope - I don't know the rules in MA) the police would have reacted the same had they been Proud Boys or whatever.

The real question is - will NRA send lawyers to help them?

[liberty]

Please explain what you believe to be racist in this situation.

These men are black men, and the Police, a tool of racist oppression, is harassing them for exercising their second amendment rights. What else do you need to know?

And yet, in your sig line (cut-and-pasted below; emphasis mine for effect)

I expected to be placed in an air force combat position such as security police, forward air control, pararescue or E.O.D. I would have liked dog handler. I had heard about the dog Nemo and was highly impressed. “SFB” is sad I didn’t end up in E.O.D.

you admit that you were looking forward to becoming one of those jack-booted minions yourself ... even to the point of being in charge of vicious animals to be used against anyone perceived as a 'threat'.

-"BB"-

Shame on you for denigrating a war hero, Nemo the magnificent:

Nemo – Vietnam War Hero Dog - Wolfstoria

In 1967, at the height of the Vietnam War, it was common to see a returning, wounded vet walking or being wheeled off an Air Force carrier. But one day, at Kelly Airfield in Texas, a very special veteran arrived. He was an 85-pound German Shepherd named Nemo, considered every bit the war hero that many of the other soldiers were. He was one of the first, and the few, Vietnam war dogs to be given passage back home to the United States.

[Bicycle Bill]

From the Wiki article — first paragraph:

Tan Son Nhut Air Base, where Nemo was stationed, fell under attack by the Viet Cong in the early hours of December 4, 1966.  Nemo would be released to attack Viet Cong later in the night, in the process losing one eye and suffering a gunshot wound to the nose.  A bullet would enter under his right eye and exit through his mouth.  Despite his severe injuries, Nemo would save the life of his handler, Airman Robert A. Throneburg, who had also been wounded.  Crawling across Throneburg's body, Nemo guarded his handler against any who dared to come near until medical help could arrive.
(emphasis mine)

Yes, Nemo sustained injuries in the line of duty.  Yes, Nemo protected his handler until medical assistance arrived.  And yes, Nemo was apparently rehabilitated, domesticated, or 'demilitarized' enough that he was considered to be not enough of a threat and was allowed to be returned to the US instead of being 'destroyed in place', as I believe the military terms it.  And in fact, he never returned to 'civilian life', but was given a retirement kennel at Lackland AFB and served as a 'recruiting dog' (and served well; he suckered you in, apparently) until his death in 1972.

But it doesn't mitigate the fact that the animal was trained as an attack dog; a potentially lethal weapon.  And you wanted to be in charge of one of the 'dogs of war'...    In fact, I'll bet that, when you dream back on being one of the 'people of the steppes', you imagine yourself leading a charge from a war chariot complete with scimitars mounted on the wheel hubs too.

-"BB"-

[liberty]

These men are black men, and the Police, a tool of racist oppression, is harassing them for exercising their second amendment rights. What else do you need to know?

Are you saying the police wouldn't have done the same thing if those people were white?

If so, you're wrong.

They are not subject to your laws, you racist pigs. If you don't recognize their rights, you are a racist.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-wor ... U.S.%20law.

What to know about Rise of the Moors, an armed group that says it’s not subject to U.S. law | The Seattle Times
The Moorish sovereign-citizen movement emerged in the mid-1990s, though it shares ties with the Moorish Science Temple, a religious sect that dates from 1913. In 2016, Mark Pitcavage of the Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism wrote that Moorish sovereign groups adhere to “the notion that African Americans had special rights because of a 1780s treaty with Morocco, as well as the belief African Americans were descended from African ‘Moors’ – and often as well the belief African Americans were also a people indigenous to the Americas.”

[Scooter]

Someone's been dipping into the hillbilly heroin a bit more than usual.

[Joe Guy]

They are not subject to your laws, you racist pigs. If you don't recognize their rights, you are a racist.

That doesn't answer my question to you as to whether or not you believe the police would have done the same thing if the people were white or any other race.

I've read a lot about these and other self-proclaimed "Moors". They have no real connection to the Moorish Science Temple. This particular group is led by an idiot who likes to show off his firearms, camouflage clothing and his stupid hat but all "Moors" are not just like him. Most of them are just people who've been shammed into believing they are indigenous to North America (they were here before Native Americans) and this is actually Morocco. They think a trade agreement called the "Treaty of Peace & Friendship" that the U.S. signed with Morocco in 1786 supports every right they claim but I doubt many have ever read the document. They rely on their leaders who tell them things and sell them stupid stuff like Moorish Nationality Cards. They believe they own all of the land here in the US and are exempt from most, if not all laws, although they often attempt to use the U.S. Constitution to support their claims.

Maybe you should join them. They might help you fight the Russians when they invade us from the north.

[Econoline]

From the Moroccan–American Treaty of Friendship (negotiated by Thomas Barclay in Marrakesh, and signed by American diplomats in Europe, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams with Sultan Muhammad III in 1786), Article 25:

This Treaty shall continue in full Force, with the help of God for Fifty Years.

[Burning Petard]

If this group was a sovereign group, not subject to US Law, then the Mass Police were acting with great restraint in not blowing away immediately this group of armed invaders. And by definition, if US law does not apply, then they have no second amendment rights.

snailgate

[BoSoxGal]

If this group was a sovereign group, not subject to US Law, then the Mass Police were acting with great restraint in not blowing away immediately this group of armed invaders. And by definition, if US law does not apply, then they have no second amendment rights.

snailgate

I like this attitude - however one of the peculiar frustrations of dealing with sovereign citizens is the necessity of protecting and applying their rights as US citizens while dealing with the manifestations of their delusions.

The sovereign citizen who stalked me in Montana for three years, and against whom I got a lifetime protection order issued by the court, and who was prosecuted for several felonies against me and other public officials that he intimidated and harassed and stalked for years, has finally died. Even though I moved over 2000 miles away, I was still relieved to know that his insanity and cache of weapons no longer posed a threat to me or any of my former colleagues. Until you’ve been stalked by a deluded cult member, you just can’t understand how it feels.

As to this case, it’s just a perfect example of how deep the delusions go in these sovereign citizen types. Driving through MASSACHUSETTS of all places with a cache of firearms for which proper paperwork doesn’t exist? Then stopping on the side of the highway where interaction with law enforcement was a near certainty? And doing all this dressed to the hilt in tactical/combat gear? For a training in Maine?

Imagine if they’d just worn street clothes and driven normal vehicles and had all their weapons hidden away like normal people who recognize the power of the laws of the land in which they’re traveling. Then they’d be like the more dangerous domestic terrorists who gathered in Maine this weekend to begin training for their August assaults on democracy.

Sovereign citizens are designated as domestic terrorists by the FBI. For a glimpse into the details of their peculiar belief system, go here

[liberty]

Andy Ngô Busts Dishonest Media: Asks Why Media Used Photos Of White Men Wearing Confederate Badges In MA Stand-Off When Militiamen Were Black Racial Separatists?
Date: July 5, 2021Author: Nwo Report1 Comment

Source: Patty McMurray
Independent journalist Andy Ngô called out the dishonest media today, for attempting to trick Americans into believing a group of white, male militia members were responsible for an incident that involved a standoff between police and militia members in a suburb of Boston this morning. This time, the offender is the Jerusalem Post.

From the Jerusalem Post – Residents in a suburban Boston neighborhood were asked to “shelter in place” early Saturday as an armed standoff between 8 to 10 militia members and police forced the closure of a US interstate highway.

Here is the photo the dishonest publication used to promote the false narrative that the “unnamed militia” were a group of white guys wearing confederate flag badges. The AP photo the Jerusalem Post used for their article on the incident that took place early this morning was from the 2016 Charlottesville, NC riots.

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Two people were taken into custody before dawn and at least one gun was recovered, police said, following a standoff that started after 1 a.m. along Interstate 95 in Wakefield, a city about 14 miles north of Boston, when a Massachusetts State Police officer pulled over two cars.

In the vehicles were about 10 people wearing military-style clothes and carrying rifles and pistols, police said.
The cars stopped in a breakdown lane and the group’s leader told police that they were traveling from Rhode Island to Maine for “training,” police said in a news conference.

The officer asked for identification and permits for the weapons, but the people refused and scattered into the nearby woods, still armed, police said.

No shots have been reported fired and no injuries were reported. Police said that the group self-identifies as a militia, but the name of the group was not released. The leftist Jerusalem Post also wrote about Trump’s rally in Florida tonight. But, instead of talking about the massive crowd lined up early today to take part in Trump’s rally, they instead, had this to say:

[Big RR]

You honestly care what photo the Jerusalem Post publishes? I have never seen even a copy of it and have no idea whether it is viewed as a trusted news source or something seen as akin the the National Enquirer or the Weekly World News. But, why does what a paper publishes halfway around the world about a Massachusetts incident bother you at all? Are you a subscriber?

[liberty]

They are all liars. One can't truly trust any of them. Liberals are the worse because they believe their lies are true just because they say it. Remember Dan Rather?

[MajGenl.Meade]

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/08/andy ... nd-bigotry

Trust you to pick a vicious fascist pig as your hero, lib.

Portland’s Andy Ngo Is the Most Dangerous Grifter in America By Arun Gupta

Far-right forces will converge on Portland tomorrow, incited by the right-wing provocateur Andy Ngo. Though he poses as a journalist, the purpose of his platform is to sow harassment and violence against his targets on the Left — and the mainstream media have fallen for it.

He's nothing more nor less than a right-wing troll, happy to support Proud Boy type planners of mayhem and murder.

Now why don't you show me the pictures that the "dishonest media" in the USA have been using depicting white men instead of black fascists? Every damn video and picture I've seen shows black people uttering their pathetic lunacy

[Big RR]

Come on Lib--the Jerusalem Post is "liberal"? And how do you know that?

And FWIW, I hardly think of Dan Rather as "liberal"; highly critical of those in power? Certainly. But hardly liberal.

[Sue U]

The leftist Jerusalem Post

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

My parents had subscribed to the JP for decades because at that time it was the only English-language newspaper publishing an international edition out of Israel. To call it "leftist" is about as absurd as calling Ronald Reagan a "leftist." Its slant is pretty much center-right and always has been (mostly in the framing of the issues rather than in its reporting of the substantive facts themselves). If you want a "leftist" paper from Israel your only choice is Ha'aretz, and they are hardly radical reds; their "political" leaning is basically secularist and pro-social welfare. Since Israel was created as a democratic socialist state, there isn't even a self-designated "socialist party" (because they're all de facto socialist parties), and the historically tiny Communist Party is now virtually nonexistent, except as a token member of Joint List.

As for the "standoff" in Massachusetts, I watched some of the live feed from the Rise of the Moors youtube and I am at a loss to understand what if anything the "Moors" may have done that was even possibly illegal -- except to the extent some local "open carry" regulation might have been violated if they had their guns outside their vehicles. I see they were charged with "conspiracy to commit a crime, unlawful possession of guns and ammunition, possession of a high-capacity magazine, use of body armor in a crime and improper storage of firearms in a vehicle." So essentially these non-MA residents en route to Maine are being charged for having guns without a Massachusetts license (why ever would they need one?). These are some bullshit charges. "Improper storage" should be the only one that sticks, and that's hardly worth a holiday weekend in the lockup; a ticket would have sufficed.