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But she was not so cautious when she spoke of China and surprised everybody by her unexpected candour about India's neighbour to the north.

''I personally have huge military concerns about what is going on in China,'' she said. ''What's with the build-up? You don't see a tangible outside threat … to that country. Is that just for a defensive posture? How can that be? Stockpiling ballistic missiles, submarines, new-age ultramodern fighter aircraft. It certainly means America needs to be vigilant looking at what China is doing.''
Mrs Palin, who flew to Delhi from Taiwan in a trip widely viewed as an attempt to beef up her foreign policy credentials, added that America's economic reliance on China constituted ''a dangerous place to be''.

And she criticised the emphasis on green jobs as a ''false, utopian fairytale''.

Her speech, ''My Vision of America'', was the gala event at the end of a two-day conference organised by an Indian weekly magazine. Other speakers included the feminist writer Germaine Greer, the hacker Josh Klein, the Pakistani politician Aitzaz Ahsan and the Nobel peace prize winner Mohamed ElBaradei.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/palin-cites ... 1c23p.html

Gob wrote: Good republican trick that, give the people a country to fear (Russia/Vietnam/Iraq/), and they'll vote for you to save them from it.

loCAtek wrote:I haven't watched any episodes, since I've never had any interest in that kind of faux-reality TV, but I have seen the trailer online. It's hard for me to believe she's an 'aw-shucks' frontier mom, when she's been out of state, on the road, campaigning since 2008. Frankly, just from the clip, the whole series looks staged. (Who'd a thunk, that?) E.G. correct me if I'm wrong, but do you really want to park your fishing boat full of children within clawing distance of a grizzly bear with cubs? (Well, Sarah called them grizzly bears, they were actually brown bears.

oldr_n_wsr wrote:I watched
S.P.'s Alaska only because I like Alaska. It did seem to be "staged". I have been to Alaska and you don't go anywhere near a mom bear and her cubs, not even in a boat. And if you see mom and her cubs, you back away as quickly as you can (without running).

Excerpts from;

Sarah Palin's History: Lifelong Unlicensed Hunter and Fisher
by Abe Sauer on March 21st, 2011


"We eat, therefore we hunt." —Sarah Palin, Going Rogue

In December, after an episode of "Sarah Palin's Alaska," The Awl, along with many in America's hunting community, asked some questions about the former Governor's longstanding claim of being an avid and experienced hunter.

At some point, all hunters are inexperienced, and even experienced ones are often unsafe, but being unlicensed is more than just illegal, it's detrimental to natural resource efforts. Palin herself believes this, writing in 2010's America by Heart that "…it's important that we're managing our fish and wildlife resources for abundance in the Last Frontier."

Curious if Palin was licensed for her 2010 on-air caribou adventure, or, for that matter, any of her "lifetime of hunting" trips, we submitted an open records request to Alaska's Dept. of Fish & Game. Our request covered the years 1980 to 2010, from Palin's teenage years as "Sarah Heath" to today.


It turns out, Palin has pulled a number of licenses in the last 30 years. There are 12 of them, though not all of them strictly for hunting.


That Palin had no fishing or hunting permits until she was into her late 20s, well after she was married to Todd, calls into question her claims about being a lifelong hunter, or her father's claims about having properly taught her to hunt.

Palin has played the part, giving numerous press conferences from the deck of a boat.

ABC's "why she resigned" interview was done from the deck of a commercial fishing boat "dressed in a white T-shirt and overall waders… all the while plucking salmon from the family fishing nets aboard a boat…"

In July 2009, Palin told reporters gathered for a press event that she has been helping her husband Todd, a licensed commercial fisherman, "for decades." That press op was on July 7, 2009. Palin's crewmember permit was from two days previous.


Last year, Politics Daily reinforced the image, writing, "Palin said she wrote the post on a commercial fishing boat in Alaska where she's 'working my butt off for my own business, merely asking the Democrat politicos and their liberal friends in the media: 'What's the plan, man?'"

There is even stock footage of Sarah Palin commercial fishing for sale.

* * *

Palin's office did not respond to an inquiry about her licensing history, but in her bestseller "Going Rogue" Palin includes several pictures of herself hunting and fishing (with no dates), including this shot, the caption of which suggests that she is on the boat every summer (and is yet worded so that it doesn't technically claim that).



Palin has run afoul of Alaskan permitting rules. In 1993, the future Governor pleaded no contest to the charge of failing to register as a set gill net permit holder (which is a technical way of saying commercial fishing without a license). Mistakenly noting it as a felony, The Anchorage Daily wrote of the incident:

"Palin explained the fishing violation by saying that she had been a crew member but took over the permit for that season from her sister-in-law. Palin then forgot to switch her registration from that of a crew member to a permit holder, she said.

But according to the records from Alaska, Palin actually had no crewmember license for 1993. She had not had one since 1989 and would not again have one until 1995—the year she was running for reelection to the Wasilla City Council.

That six of Palin's ten total lifetime commercial fishing licenses have come in the last seven years, while she was running for high office, unravels the story that Palin is some kind of old ocean hand. Four of the total ten permits came during or after her campaigns for governor and vice-president.

loCAtek wrote:
That Palin had no fishing or hunting permits until she was into her late 20s, well after she was married to Todd, calls into question her claims about being a lifelong hunter, or her father's claims about having properly taught her to hunt.

Violation of permits, season, bag limits, shooting hours and methods of taking game
$50 to $500 fine and/or up to 90 days in jail.

Illegal taking/possession of deer, bear, or wild turkey
$200 to $1,000 fine and 5 to 90 days in jail, restitution of $1,500 for bear, $1,000 for deer/turkey, plus revocation of hunting licenses for remainder of year convicted, plus next 3 consecutive years

Illegal use of artificial light with bow and arrow or firearm
$100 to $500 fine and/or 90 days in jail, plus revocation of hunting licenses for remainder of year convicted, plus next consecutive year.


Carrying a firearm while under the influence of alcohol or drugs
$500 fine and/or up to 93 days in jail.

Multiple offender: Two convictions within preceding five years
$500 to $2,000 fine and 10 to 180 days in jail.

For example here's Michigan which also has agreements with roughly 30ish other states where if you lose your right to buy a license here you lose it there too and vice-versa;