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Child cruelty

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:03 pm
by @meric@nwom@n
http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/227553


POLICE CAUTION MUM FOR LEAVING SON, 14, TO MIND THREE-YEAR-OLD BROTHER
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Police cautioned a mum for leaving her teenage son in charge of his three-year-old sibling

Monday February 7,2011
By Paul Broster



A MOTHER who left her son of 14 to mind his three-year-old brother while she went to the shops was given a police caution for “cruelty” and was suspended from work.

Last night the case ignited a debate over when it is acceptable for parents to briefly leave older siblings home alone as carers.

Police found that the un-named healthcare assistant left the brothers alone together for just 30 minutes.



Although there was no “incident” and they were not believed to be in danger, the mother was cautioned by officers for “committing an act of cruelty on a child or young person.”

She has also remained suspended from her job in the Thames Valley since September 2009 because the caution is revealed under Criminal Records Bureau checks.

The woman, in her mid-40s, who is fighting for a law change and reinstatement, claims the system makes her “unemployable”. As well as being unable to pass a CRB check, the caution automatically bars her from working with children for 10 years.

This was despite her being taken off the barred list by the Independent Safeguarding Authority after a year-long social services probe produced a “glowing” report which confirmed her children were healthy and well looked after.

UK law fails to spell out when teenagers can look after their younger brothers and sisters but police can prosecute parents if they feel their actions put children at risk.

The NSPCC advises that no child under 14 should be left home alone and no child under 16 should care for someone younger than themselves.

Siobhan Freegard, co-founder of Netmums and a mother-of-three, said: “Parents are left to rely on their own judgment but sometimes they will make the wrong call.”



Consultant psychologist David Spellman, who works with children, said: “Fourteen-year-olds are very different from one another.

Kids who probably shouldn’t be left alone are, but that doesn’t necessarily constitute neglect.” The crime reduction charity NACRO said that it was “outrageous” the healthcare assistant remained unable to work.

Spokesman Tim Linehan said: “It demonstrates the double jeopardy of the system where someone has been removed from the barred list but a caution continues to come up on a CRB check and they risk losing a job as a result.

“One of the problems with cautions is that people don’t realise they are recorded as an offence and they go on a person’s record, which can be discovered when a CRB check is carried out.

“An employer who sees that someone has a caution may then exclude them from employment.”

In November two nurses who were barred from working with youngsters for leaving their own children unattended, had the bans overturned.

One had been barred for leaving an 11-year-old at home while she went to the shops.

The other, a male nurse, was cautioned after his wife briefly left their children alone without his knowledge.

Both are now suing the Government for damages.

A source close to the healthcare assistant, who is married, said: “She feels she is dedicated to her family but because of this the system has effectively ended her career and made her unemployable.”

'INTELLIGENCE AND MATURITY OF THE CHILD IS KEY'

PARENTS last night said there needed to be clearer guidelines over leaving children.

Charity officer Janet Cropper, 49, from Windermere, Cumbria, said she regularly left daughter Naomi, 16, home alone for brief spells from the age of 10.

She added: “I believe people need firmer guidelines. Naomi got to an age where she didn’t want to go to a childminder after school any more and she was very mature.”

Mother-of-three Vivienne Smith, 60, from Sale, near Manchester, said she left her son Paul, then 14, in charge of his five-year-old sister Zoe when they were growing up. She said: “Paul would arrive home from secondary school on his bike and Zoe would be brought home from primary school by another parent – a close friend.

“He would look after her for about an hour and make her tea until I returned from work. I didn’t think twice as he was a very responsible lad.

“There were never any problems and I didn’t feel I was letting anyone down.

“I think it boils down to the age of the children and the teenager’s intelligence and maturity.”
So, the government has concluded that no one may exercise judgment anymore and if one does he will get a ticket and lose his means of making a living. Capital my dear chap, capital.

Re: Child cruelty

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:12 pm
by Long Run
When I saw the gist of this post, I thought there must be more to the story, but it appears that there is wide discretion for the police to determine a young child is at risk. I guess a parent can follow the guidelines that you cannot leave a child younger than 14 home alone, and that an older sibling must be at least 16 to watch younger kids. That a policeman can make a discretionary determination of neglect in this type of case without a social worker or other specialized person making the call is bizarre, as is the fact that there does not appear to be an easy process for getting a determination and clearing the parent's record.

The other outrageous result is that a "caution" which sounds like the equivalent of an American "arrest" here goes onto the parent's record and can prevent her from obtaining certain types of employment. Maybe there is a process for removing that black mark.

The American legal system has its excesses and due process follows due process ad naseum, but the system prevents this type of inanity, at least outside of the school system. (I'm sure folks will now provide a hundred examples where get it as wrong as England on this).

Re: Child cruelty

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:48 pm
by Gob
At 14 I regularly babysat my two younger sisters on Friday night when my parents went out on the piss. At 14 I would have trusted hatch to babysit any child, she'd probably be more competent than I would.

Sheer fucking nanny state madness.

Re: Child cruelty

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:10 pm
by loCAtek
I think I was baby-sitting for the neighbors starting when I was 12 or 13, and they loved me. I was their regular sitter until the kids were grown enough to watch themselves. From their reviews, I got sitting jobs all over the neighborhood.