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I suppose it's better than being killed...

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:22 pm
by Scooter
...by your husband or other family member when they find out you're not a virgin, but...
Mail-order hymens available to Canadians

By Kris Sims, Parliamentary Bureau
First posted: Friday, July 8, 2011 1:46:16 EDT PM


Women who cannot afford to get their hymens surgically re-attached in Canada prior to marriages in their cultural country of origin have a less expensive option: they can order one in the mail.

Starting at just $29.95, women can order a false hymen online, shipped from China.

The imports are officially banned in many Middle Eastern and North African countries, but women in North America and Great Britain are a fertile market.

"We have many urgent requests from women, begging us for urgent delivery before their wedding night," says Mike Munro, with the Hymenshop.com. The online store opened in March 2010, and sells a couple thousand per month.

"There are some cultural notions out there that the ordinary person cannot just challenge and try and change them without paying a very dear price and in some case with their own lives."

In Canada, some young women from predominantly Muslim backgrounds are desperate to appear as virgins, fearing they could be killed by their families if they do not have an intact hymen on their marriage beds after arranged marriages in their cultural home countries.

Some are getting plastic surgery in Canadian private clinics to re-attach their hymens.

The mail-order version is a thin film containing a packet of red fluid. The website advises to insert the film 20 minutes prior to sex in order to mimic the breaking of the hymen and showing the required "blood."

The parcels come with alternate markings from generic sounding companies, evading interception.

"Woman belonging to these sorts of cultures will have to work around these notions if they wish to have a safe and 'normal' family lives and we provide them with this opportunity." says Munro.
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I'm not sure who I condemn more, crazy people who were brought up to believe it was necessary to kill a non-virgin for "dishonouring" her family, or someone exploiting a woman's fear of being killed by crazy people in order to make a profit.

Re: I suppose it's better than being killed...

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:26 pm
by dales
Not to mention the "old double standard" which is old as human kind.

Re: I suppose it's better than being killed...

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:38 pm
by Gob
Scooter wrote:..

I'm not sure who I condemn more, crazy people who were brought up to believe it was necessary to kill a non-virgin for "dishonouring" her family, or someone exploiting a woman's fear of being killed by crazy people in order to make a profit.
The former has some form of excuse in religious/cultural indoctrination, the latter, can be absolved due to lives potentially saved, though neither is worthy of praise.

Re: I suppose it's better than being killed...

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:52 pm
by Joe Guy
So... Let's see....

A man & woman decide to get married.

During their honeymoon they have sexual intercourse.

The woman doesn't bleed.

So the man kills her and it's okay because it's a cultural thing?

I kinda doubt the man was actually in love...

Re: I suppose it's better than being killed...

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:28 pm
by Miles
Joe Guy wrote:So... Let's see....

A man & woman decide to get married.

During their honeymoon they have sexual intercourse.

The woman doesn't bleed.

So the man kills her and it's okay because it's a cultural thing?

I kinda doubt the man was actually in love...
In a culture that condones such actions I don't think love enters into it.

Re: I suppose it's better than being killed...

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:48 pm
by loCAtek
If I understand correctly; some Muslim cultures, wave the damn, bloody, bed sheet outside of the tent, like a racing flag, as part of the post nuptials. How's that for Honeymoon, performance anxiety? The whole friggin' tribe is gonna judge your first sexual union together! :oops: :oops: :oops:

Re: I suppose it's better than being killed...

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:20 pm
by rubato
loCAtek wrote:If I understand correctly; some Muslim cultures, wave the damn, bloody, bed sheet outside of the tent, like a racing flag, as part of the post nuptials. How's that for Honeymoon, performance anxiety? The whole friggin' tribe is gonna judge your first sexual union together! :oops: :oops: :oops:
One of the anthropology professors at UCSC showed photographs of this practice taken from his field research. A white sheet with an irregular red stain was flown the next day to 'prove' her virginity to the tribesmen who had traveled to come to the wedding. Given how often hymen are broken by other means during girlhood I suspect that there have always been 'special practices' arranged by the women to provide the 'proofs'.

yrs,
rubato

Re: I suppose it's better than being killed...

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:22 pm
by Gob
Of the multitude of things on which she knows nothing, is there anything she is prepared not to tell us...
"the father of the damsel, and her mother, shall bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city ... and they shall spread the cloth before the elders"
(Deuteronomy 22:15).

"the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of the city shall stone her with stones so that she die, because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house"
(Deuteronomy 22:20,21).
Savages them Muslins are I tell you, savages...