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Barack my world?

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:05 pm
by Aard Vark
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31 Foregone Facts Barack Obama Fans Should Ponder!
By Kevin A. Lehmann on in Kevin's Commentary, Politics


1. If a previous president had doubled the national debt which had taken more than two centuries to accumulate, in just one year, would you have approved?

2. If a previous president had then proposed to double the debt again within 10 years, would you have approved?

3. If a previous president would have spent nearly a trillion dollars in stimulus and guaranteed unemployment would not exceed 8%, would you have called him a liar?

4. If a previous president would have played golf for thirteen weekends in a row leaving it up to congressional leaders to deal with the greatest financial crisis since the great depression, would you have considered him disengaged and out of touch?

5. If a previous president had criticized a state law that he admitted to never even reading, would you have thought him an ignoramus?

6. If a previous president had passed an unconstitutional law that would have absorbed 1/6th of the America’s entire GDP, forced Americans to purchase a private product (in violation of the commerce clause), fined them if they didn’t, hired 16,000 new IRS agents to enforce it, and exempted 1400 organizations from having to abide by that new law, would you have thought him a mafia boss?

7. If a previous president joined the country of Mexico and sued a state in America to force that state to continue to allow illegal immigration, would you have questioned his patriotism and priorities and wonder who his allegiance was to?

8. If a previous president had pronounced Navy Corpsman like you pronounce a dead corpse, would you have thought he was stupid?

9. If a previous president had put 87,000 people out of work by arbitrarily placing a moratorium on offshore oil drilling on companies that have one of the best safety records because one foreign company had an accident, would you have agreed?

10. If a previous president had used a forged document as the basis of the moratorium that would render 87,000 American workers unemployed would you have supported him?

11. If a previous president had been the first president to need a teleprompter to get through a press conference, would you have thought this is more proof of how inept he is on his own and that he’s really controlled by smarter people behind the scenes?

12. If a previous president had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to take his wife to a play in NYC, would you have approved?

13. If a previous president had reduced your retirement plan holdings of GM stock by 90%, given the unions a majority stake in the car maker and shut down 789 perfectly profitable Chrysler dealerships because they were were owned by registered republicans, would you have approved?

14. If a previous president had made a joke at the expense of the Special Olympics, would you have approved?

15. If a previous president had given Gordon Brown a set of inexpensive and incorrectly formatted DVDs when Gordon Brown gave him a thoughtful and historically significant gift, would you have approved?

16. If a previous president had given the Queen of England an iPod containing audios of his speeches, would you have thought it a proud moment for America, or that a narcissist occupied the White House?

17. If a previous president had bowed to Kings of third world countries while on an apologetic tour, would you have approved?

18. If a previous president had visited Austria and made reference to the nonexistent “Austrian language,” would you have thought it a minor slip?

19. If a previous president had filled his cabinet and circle of advisers with people who don’t pay their own income taxes, would you have approved?

20. If a previous president had said there were 57 states in the United States, wouldn’t you have been shocked?

21. If a previous president would have flown all the way to Denmark to make a five minute speech about how the Olympics would benefit him walking out of his front door in his home town, would you not have thought him a conceited, egomaniac?

22. If a previous president had been so Spanish illiterate as to refer to “Cinco de Cuatro” in front of the Mexican ambassador when it was the fourth of May (Cuatro de Mayo), and continued to flub it when he tried again, would you have not been embarrassed?

23. If a previous president had burned 9,000 gallons of jet fuel to go plant a single tree on “Earth Day,” would you have concluded he’s a hypocrite?

24. If a previous presidents’ administration had okayed Air Force One flying low over millions of people followed by a jet fighter in downtown Manhattan that caused widespread panic, would you have thought him insensitive and clueless about what actually happened on 9/11?

25. If a previous president had created the position of 45 Czars who reported directly to him, bypassing the House and Senate and usurping the Constitution, would you have ever approved?

26. If a previous president had ordered the firing of the CEO of a major corporation, even though he had no constitutional authority to do so, would you have approved?

27. If a previous president had spent nearly $2 million dollars hiding his identity all the way back to his childhood, would you have been suspicious?

28. If a previous president had been raised a Muslim, spent more time living abroad in Islamic countries than he did in the United States, hung out with terrorists, and attended a hate church for 20 years, would you have not thought him brainwashed?

29. If a previous president had received a Nobel Peace Prize for nothing more than out campaigning his competitors, would you have thought him the laughing stock of recipients?

30. If a previous president had ordered a botched illegal gun running operation that resulted in American arms winding up in the hands of foreign drug cartels who in turn murdered Americans, would he have not had blood on his hands and been ordered to resign?

31. If a previous president had released a fraudulent long form birth certificate and was factually proven ineligible to even be the president whether he was born on American soil or not (father had dual citizenship Kenya/Britain) would you have not demanded impeachment?

In summary, when you ask Obama to “Barack Your World,” refer to this list and try not to hurl.

Until next time . . . Wake Up America!

Kevin A. Lehmann
I admit not knowing a lot about US Pollitics but this made me wonder WTF!!!!!
You can read comments about this here http://catchkevin.com/31-facts/

Re: Barack my world?

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:41 pm
by Scooter
The WTF is that half is complete bullshit and the other have is distorted beyond recognition.

Re: Barack my world?

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:57 pm
by Liberty1
The WTF is that half is complete bullshit and the other have is distorted beyond recognition.
Half is way more than enough.

And how do you call this distortion.
1. If a previous president had doubled the national debt which had taken more than two centuries to accumulate, in just one year, would you have approved?

2. If a previous president had then proposed to double the debt again within 10 years, would you have approved?

3. If a previous president would have spent nearly a trillion dollars in stimulus and guaranteed unemployment would not exceed 8%, would you have called him a liar?

Re: Barack my world?

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:13 pm
by Scooter
Well, let's take the first one:
Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2010

09/30/2010 13,561,623,030,891.79
09/30/2009 11,909,829,003,511.75
09/30/2008 10,024,724,896,912.49
09/30/2007 9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 6,783,231,062,743.62
09/30/2002 6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 5,807,463,412,200.06
09/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86
Now I admit I was not a student of the "new math", but I don't see anything remotely resembling a doubling of the national debt in one year or even over the course of his term to date (since the debt ceiling is something north of $14 trillion and that hasn't been hit yet).

What I do, see, however, is that a previous president did in fact come close to doubling the debt over the course of his two terms in office, less time than the ten years the author of that steaming pile is complaining about (if that one has any truth to it, given the complete ridiculousness of his first assertion).

Re: Barack my world?

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:46 pm
by Liberty1
Mostly true


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... ional-deb/

And his obamanation from this years budget is even worse than in 2009

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Re: Barack my world?

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:52 pm
by Scooter
So you admit that the claim that he doubled the national debt in one year is false. Thanks.

And by posting the above data you have also proven that the claim that the national debt will double again in ten years is also false. Thanks.

Re: Barack my world?

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:12 pm
by Liberty1
It depends on if you believe anything they CBO or any other govt agancy estimates, that are ALWAYS, underestimated.

Re: Barack my world?

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:24 pm
by Scooter
So once again, the data differs from your preconceived opinion, so the data must be wrong.

Reminds me of the non-existent autobiography of a certain North Vietnamese general...

Re: Barack my world?

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:54 pm
by Timster
Well, there is only one thing left to do then liberty1, start an Impeach Obama thread. :fu

That will show those commie lefties where the ursine mammal defecates in the buckwheat! :lol:

Re: Barack my world?

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:45 pm
by Aard Vark
With a good chance of looking stupid I am now asking is any of this true or is it a big storm in a teacup?
I was lead to believe this was answered with the Birth Cert being produced.
27. If a previous president had spent nearly $2 million dollars hiding his identity all the way back to his childhood, would you have been suspicious?
So is it all lies?
28. If a previous president had been raised a Muslim, spent more time living abroad in Islamic countries than he did in the United States, hung out with terrorists, and attended a hate church for 20 years, would you have not thought him brainwashed?
Come on even I found this hard to believe but is there any truth in it and if not how does Kevin A. Lehmann get away with sprouting such Gob Shite and not end up in the slammer?

Re: Barack my world?

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:54 pm
by Gob
Probably due to the unthinking mass of people, mostly poor as piss and dumb as rocks, supporting him.

Take the healthcare issue;
Why are so many American voters enraged by attempts to change a horribly inefficient system that leaves them with premiums they often cannot afford?

Why are they manning the barricades to defend insurance companies that routinely deny claims and cancel policies?


It might be tempting to put the whole thing down to what the historian Richard Hofstadter back in the 1960s called "the paranoid style" of American politics, in which God, guns and race get mixed into a toxic stew of resentment at anything coming out of Washington.

But that would be a mistake.

If people vote against their own interests, it is not because they do not understand what is in their interest or have not yet had it properly explained to them.

They do it because they resent having their interests decided for them by politicians who think they know best.

There is nothing voters hate more than having things explained to them as though they were idiots.

As the saying goes, in politics, when you are explaining, you are losing. And that makes anything as complex or as messy as healthcare reform a very hard sell.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8474611.stm

Re: Barack my world?

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:39 am
by Scooter
Aard Vark wrote:With a good chance of looking stupid I am now asking is any of this true or is it a big storm in a teacup?
I was lead to believe this was answered with the Birth Cert being produced.
27. If a previous president had spent nearly $2 million dollars hiding his identity all the way back to his childhood, would you have been suspicious?
It's just more birther bullshit The birthers were never going to be satisfied with the production of a birth certificate, just as they weren't satisfied when it was presented even before he became president.
So is it all lies?
In a word, yes.
how does Kevin A. Lehmann get away with sprouting such Gob Shite
Because there is a segment of American society who have harboured such a visceral hatred of Barack Obama and who are so earth shatteringly stupid that they will believe anything that makes him look bad.

Re: Barack my world?

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:09 pm
by Miles
Because there is a segment of American society who have harboured such a visceral hatred of Barack Obama and who are so earth shatteringly stupid that they will believe anything that makes him look bad.
That and the fact that he has such a deep tan. I half expected him to be dead by now. Unfortunately our society has way too many bigots and racists for my liking. I imagine the executive branch of the secret service are buying stock in tums and rolaides.

Re: Barack my world?

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:33 pm
by quaddriver
Scooter wrote:So you admit that the claim that he doubled the national debt in one year is false. Thanks.

And by posting the above data you have also proven that the claim that the national debt will double again in ten years is also false. Thanks.
This year the deficit will run over $1T. (IIRC it is at $971B as of about a week ago with 2.5 months to go)

On February 14, 2011, President Obama released his 2012 Federal Budget. The report updated the projected 2011 deficit to $1.645 trillion

Any budget currently possible (like THAT will happen, I, we, all of us have lived under a CR for over 2 years now) will be over $1T defecit per year. (this does not address that there are proposals on the table to lessen (but never eliminate) the defecit in any year for the next ten, but right now the liklihood of anything meaningful passing is nil)

Therefore, it is possible the national debt will be double what it was before he took office.

The rest of the article aside, if the claim is reduced to simply: "this admin and democrats controlling both houses have passed and signed budget instruments that have "spent" money at levels never before imagined"; then it would be correct.

Financially, we need Bush back. Either one. Or Clinton. Or even Reagan.

Re: Barack my world?

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:34 pm
by loCAtek
Well, this settles it;


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Re: Barack my world?

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:41 pm
by The Hen

Re: Barack my world?

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:08 pm
by loCAtek
pssst, I know, it was a joke, hon. I didn't think anyone would take it seriously.

Re: Barack my world?

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:12 pm
by The Hen
Psst, I know. I wasn't taking it seriously. I just felt like linking to Snopes, OK?

Thanks for your concern.

Now off you go.