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Doesn't exactly inspire my confidence

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:47 pm
by Scooter
I decided to make some corn bread to go with my dinner tonight (beef stew). But I needed more corn meal so I ran down to the grocey store to buy some. I found this message on the packaging:

"Although this high quality (manufacturer's name) product has been harvested, dried, sorted and packed using modern methods consistent with good manufacturing practices for your complete safety, you are advised to thoroughly check this product to ensure that it is clean and free of extraneous material before consumption."

Clean? Like I would be able to separate out the dirt once it was ground together with the corn. Extraneous material? Like what? I'm not sure I even want to guess.

My only consolation comes from knowing that anything organic should be neutralized by baking.

Re: Doesn't exactly inspire my confidence

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:27 pm
by rubato
Back in the "good old days" my maternal Grandmother would empty a package of beans out onto a flat surface and sort out the small stones in it.

Now there's something fun for your teeth!


yrs,
rubato

Re: Doesn't exactly inspire my confidence

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:21 am
by Gob
Scooter wrote: Clean? Like I would be able to separate out the dirt once it was ground together with the corn. Extraneous material? Like what? I'm not sure I even want to guess.
Bits of bugs mainly.
EXTRANEOUS MATERIALS
Any foreign matter in a product associated with objectionable conditions or practices in production, storage, or distribution. Includes: objectionable matter contributed by insects, rodents, and birds; decomposed material; and miscellaneous matter such as sand, soil, glass, rust, or other foreign substances.


http://www.fda.gov/food/guidancecomplia ... 056174.htm
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Re: Doesn't exactly inspire my confidence

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:23 am
by Scooter
Thanks, I so needed to see that.

Re: Doesn't exactly inspire my confidence

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:27 pm
by Miles
Gob wrote:
Scooter wrote: Clean? Like I would be able to separate out the dirt once it was ground together with the corn. Extraneous material? Like what? I'm not sure I even want to guess.
Bits of bugs mainly.
EXTRANEOUS MATERIALS
Any foreign matter in a product associated with objectionable conditions or practices in production, storage, or distribution. Includes: objectionable matter contributed by insects, rodents, and birds; decomposed material; and miscellaneous matter such as sand, soil, glass, rust, or other foreign substances.


http://www.fda.gov/food/guidancecomplia ... 056174.htm
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OK Strop now I will feel the need to inspect every loaf of bread. Either that or go back to baking my own. :roll:

Re: Doesn't exactly inspire my confidence

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:48 pm
by Gob
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Re: Doesn't exactly inspire my confidence

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:35 pm
by dales
They might've charged extra for the animal protein.

Re: Doesn't exactly inspire my confidence

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:03 am
by BoSoxGal
Poor little hungry mouse! :cry:

Re: Doesn't exactly inspire my confidence

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:03 am
by liberty
Scooter wrote:I decided to make some corn bread to go with my dinner tonight (beef stew). .
Yankees are not permitted make and consume the sacred cornbread and that goes double for Yankee Canadians. There should be a law. We received cornbread from the original people of this land and never rejected it unlike the Yankee.

Re: Doesn't exactly inspire my confidence

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:10 am
by BoSoxGal
Are you nuts? Cornbread & baked beans is as Yankee a tradition as a radical tea party. Puh-leeze! :roll:

Re: Doesn't exactly inspire my confidence

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:12 pm
by Scooter
liberty wrote:Yankees are not permitted make and consume the sacred cornbread and that goes double for Yankee Canadians. There should be a law. We received cornbread from the original people of this land and never rejected it unlike the Yankee.
At least one of us wasn't stupid enough to fall for the fairy tale that Europeans don't eat corn. Three guesses who that was, and the first two don't count. :loon

Re: Doesn't exactly inspire my confidence

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:35 pm
by rubato
Scooter wrote:"...

My only consolation comes from knowing that anything organic should be neutralized by baking.
Prions survive very high temperatures. Maybe you could get "mad corn disease"?

yrs,
rubato

Re: Doesn't exactly inspire my confidence

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:42 pm
by rubato
Scooter wrote:
liberty wrote:Yankees are not permitted make and consume the sacred cornbread and that goes double for Yankee Canadians. There should be a law. We received cornbread from the original people of this land and never rejected it unlike the Yankee.
At least one of us wasn't stupid enough to fall for the fairy tale that Europeans don't eat corn. Three guesses who that was, and the first two don't count. :loon
But it was well-established that Europeans did in fact reject both corn and potatoes as human food for quite a long time.

yrs,
rubato

Re: Doesn't exactly inspire my confidence

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:44 pm
by liberty
bigskygal wrote:Are you nuts? Cornbread & baked beans is as Yankee a tradition as a radical tea party. Puh-leeze! :roll:
At least you have a sense humor. And don’t blame me blame the Create channel on PBS, I believe the name of the show is The Test Kitchen. The male host gave a short history of cornbread which matched what I already knew. We got it from the Indians and they considered it a sacred gift of life from the spirit world. Along with other native crops it saved the early colonies from starvation, but after wheat production became common the North pretty much abandoned cornbread. It remained dominates in the south until recent times. I remember my father( step father ) he hated wheat bread and called it wasp nest. He had born 1895 and had ate corn bread all his life he had not tasted what we called light bread until after WW II.

We in the South have continued evolve cornbread until it is now quite different than the original. The pone is about an inch thick with a fried crust top and bottom. The middle is soft and fluffy with a slight oily texture and slightly sweet taste. It is make in several varieties: The plain bread, cheese cornbread, made with as many as three different types of cheeses and Mexican cornbread which includes along with cheese, hot peppers, corn and other vegetables are popular in the South. But it is still the sacred cornbread and gift of our Indian ancestors.

Re: Doesn't exactly inspire my confidence

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:15 pm
by dales
To be fully "southern", the cornbread should be deep-fried.

Re: Doesn't exactly inspire my confidence

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:27 pm
by Sue U
dales wrote:To be fully "southern", the cornbread should be deep-fried.
And on a stick!

Re: Doesn't exactly inspire my confidence

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:47 pm
by liberty
dales wrote:To be fully "southern", the cornbread should be deep-fried.
Well the crust is deep fried for the most part; it is baked in oil at five hundred degrees and after the top hardens slightly oil is spread on it. Of course I use canola oil instead of lard.

Re: Doesn't exactly inspire my confidence

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:30 pm
by Liberty1
To be fully "southern", the cornbread should be deep-fried.
Those are called corn fritters, a big difference.

Re: Doesn't exactly inspire my confidence

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:29 pm
by dales
Is it any wonder that the population of the southern states has higher instances of morbid obesity, heart disease, diabetes, and IBS.

Re: Doesn't exactly inspire my confidence

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:13 am
by rubato
dales wrote:Is it any wonder that the population of the southern states has higher instances of morbid obesity, heart disease, diabetes, and IBS.
Teenage pregnancy, unwed motherhood, syphilis, gonhorrea, divorce, tooth loss, &c.

The conservative states know how to die young, ignorant, toothless, and poor. And they're trying to teach the rest of us how to go along.

yrs,
rubato