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It doesn’t pay to suck up

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:06 pm
by liberty
It doesn’t pay to suck up. This teacher was demonstrating her liberalism by showing how evil southerners were and are with her math example on the abuse of black slaves by white southerners and it back fired. It serves her right. I will make no comment of the math quality of the teacher’s math problems but I will say they are poor examples of history because they give the impression that abuse of slaves were an ever day occurrence. A master paid a price when he punished a slave more severely than the other slaves would accept. A resentful workforce is an inefficient work force. One overseer could not effetely supervise all slaves as some sabotaged the work. Slavery works best when the slaves accept their condition. That is why communism was such a brilliant slave scheme; the government for longest time convinced the people they were the masters and the government was the slave.
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http://news.yahoo.com/fred-got-two-beat ... -news.html

..'If Fred Got Two Beatings Per Day…' Homework Asks
By Olivia Katrandjian | ABC News – Sat, Jan 7, 2012.........Related Content.
...'If Fred Got Two Beatings Per Day…' Homework Asks (ABC News)
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Third graders in in Gwinnett County, Ga., were given math homework Wednesday that asked questions about slavery and beatings.

Christopher Braxton told ABC News affiliate WSB-TV in Atlanta that he couldn't believe the assignment his 8-year-old son brought home from of Beaver Ridge Elementary school in Norcross.

"It kind of blew me away," Braxton said. "Do you see what I see? Do you really see what I see? He's not answering this question."

The question read, "Each tree had 56 oranges. If eight slaves pick them equally, then how much would each slave pick?"


Another math problem read, "If Frederick got two beatings per day, how many beatings did he get in one week?"

Another question asked how many baskets of cotton Frederick filled.

"I was furious at that point," Braxton said.

"This outrages me because it just lets me know that there's still racists," said Stephanie Jones, whose child is a student at the school.

"Something like that shouldn't be imbedded into a kid of the third, fourth, fifth, any grade," parent Terrance Barnett told WSB-TV. "I'm having to explain to my 8-year-old why slavery or slaves or beatings are in a math problem. That hurts."

"In this one, the teachers were trying to do a cross-curricular activity," Gwinnett County school district spokeswoman Sloan Roach said.

Roach said the teachers were attempting to incorporate social studies into math problems.

"We understand that there are concerns about these questions, and we agree that these questions were not appropriate," she said.

ABC News affiliate WSB-TV contributed to this report.

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Re: It doesn’t pay to suck up

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:21 pm
by Liberty1
Reminds me of the type of questions they asked at the prez debates this weekend.

Re: It doesn’t pay to suck up

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:42 pm
by Scooter
Ah yes, the good ol' boy myth that slaves were well treated and happy.

Somebody's hooded sheet is wrapped way too tight around his head.

Re: It doesn’t pay to suck up

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:44 pm
by Sue U
liberty wrote:This teacher was demonstrating her liberalism by showing how evil southerners were and are with her math example
WTF? You are seriously delusional. :loon :loon

Re: It doesn’t pay to suck up

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:02 pm
by liberty
Sue U wrote:
liberty wrote:This teacher was demonstrating her liberalism by showing how evil southerners were and are with her math example
WTF? You are seriously delusional. :loon :loon
Well how do you see it? Do you accept the belief stated in the article that the teacher is a racist? I bet if one checked into the story one would find that the teacher is a Democrat and considers herself a liberal.

Re: It doesn’t pay to suck up

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:52 pm
by Rick
http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2012/01/09/ ... -beatings/
On Wednesday, nine third-grade math teachers at Beaver Ridge Elementary School were attempting to do a cross-curricular activity with a book the children had read about abolitionist Frederick Douglass in their social studies class. District spokeswoman Sloan Roach told CBS Atlanta that the math problems in the assignment involved some of what the students learned about Douglass. Four of the nine classes wound up sending the assignment home with the students. But when some parents were going over the students’ homework, they became appalled at the nature and language of two questions in particular.
Actually in this case Lib may have been almost right.

There were 9 though not 1...

Re: It doesn’t pay to suck up

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:27 pm
by Scooter
What was he right about? That slaves were put to bed with eiderdown quilts and fed chicken three times a day, according to the narrative of his cracker education?

Re: It doesn’t pay to suck up

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:00 am
by Rick
That the chance that they were Democrats was higher than they might be Republicans...

Re: It doesn’t pay to suck up

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:07 am
by Guinevere
Based on what facts, exactly?

Re: It doesn’t pay to suck up

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:28 am
by Rick
Guinevere wrote:Based on what facts, exactly?
http://www.governing.com/blogs/politics ... nnett.html

As for facts yer right I got none I do offer the link above, obviously not definitive but certainly telling...

Re: It doesn’t pay to suck up

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:40 am
by Guinevere
You must not have read the article:
We learn in the story that Gwinnett's County Commission still consists of five white, conservative Republicans.
The article also states:
On the other hand, if I were a Georgia Democrat I wouldn't be displeased that Gwinnett County will command more seats in the state legislature after 2010. While most of those seats will start the decade with a Republican lean, the demographics of the area are changing fast enough that they could present opportunities for the party by the end of the decade.
Seeing as how 2012 is still the beginning of the decade, it appears -- based on the evidence you supported (and I'm not commenting on whether a partisan blogger's article constitutes reliable evidence) that Gwinnett County is more Republican than Democrat.

So in the end, you've got precisely zero to support the assertion that the teachers involved in the exercise were Democrats or liberals. Keld, c'mon, you're much to smart to buy into Lib's racist loonytunes ramblings.

Re: It doesn’t pay to suck up

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:58 am
by Rick
Hey sometimes it's fun to swim against the stream.

Even if it doesn't make sense...

Re: It doesn’t pay to suck up

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:27 am
by liberty
The fun is in the search, but those that have all the answers have no need to venture beyond their infallible threshold.

Re: It doesn’t pay to suck up

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:36 am
by liberty
Sue U wrote:
liberty wrote:This teacher was demonstrating her liberalism by showing how evil southerners were and are with her math example
WTF? You are seriously delusional. :loon :loon
So you believe that Southerners are an evil people due to residual guilt. We have the inherited the guilt of our ancestors, is that it?

Re: It doesn’t pay to suck up

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:40 am
by Scooter
No, she believes you are delusional. Is reading comprehension a problem for you?

And you obviously obsess a lot about the alleged inherited guilt of your ancestors. You see something to feel guilty about, perhaps?

And considering the feelings you have expressed about black people over the years, if you are not a card-carrying member of the KKK, the only reason could be that you are too extreme for even them to stomach.

Re: It doesn’t pay to suck up

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:00 am
by liberty
Guinevere wrote:
Keld, c'mon, you're much to smart to buy into Lib's racist loonytunes ramblings.
Ok now, how is it that what I said qualifies as racist? Or is it that your racist card means whatever you want it to mean, how convenient.

Re: It doesn’t pay to suck up

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:05 am
by Scooter
Oh please. The abuse of slaves was not a regular occurrence? Where did you learn that, from reading The Autobiography of Nathan Bedford Forrest?

Re: It doesn’t pay to suck up

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:09 am
by BoSoxGal
Slaves were treated like beloved family members*, everybody knows that.

Cross-curricular teaching is a nice idea, but one which in this offing failed to inspire.





*The kind of beloved family members you can rape, beat, and sell at will.

Re: It doesn’t pay to suck up

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:48 am
by Guinevere
liberty wrote:The fun is in the search, but those that have all the answers have no need to venture beyond their infallible threshold.
Ironic, considering your OP, and defense thereof. But don't let actual facts get in the way of your ramblings.

Re: It doesn’t pay to suck up

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:01 pm
by dgs49
Howard Zinn goes into some length on this topic in his People's History. The number of beatings was not great with respect to any one slave, but they were frequent enough to remind all the slaves that it was a real possibility if they fcuked up.

To even mention slave beatings in this frivolous fashion is an insult to the humanity of the slaves. It's like speculating about how many calories were in the diet of the inmates as Auschwitz. I don't know if the teacher was a liberal, but whoever wrote those questions was an idiot.