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Gun violence in the UK
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:39 pm
by BoSoxGal
Body found after 12 killed in northern England shooting spree
London, England (CNN) -- At least 12 people have been killed and many more injured after a gunman -- believed to be a local taxi driver -- went on a shooting spree through three small towns in the English county of Cumbria on Wednesday.
After a large scale search, Cumbria police found the body of the suspected gunman, 52-year-old Derrick Bird, in a wooded area of Boot, a village in the Lake District, a popular tourist area.
Police named Bird as a suspect soon after the first shooting mid-morning on Wednesday in the Irish Sea port town of Whitehaven.
"Our focus is now on the movements of Mr. Bird this morning," authorities said. "Our thoughts are with the families in these tragic times. We are asking for any witnesses to come forward and help us with our investigation into the events of this morning."
In his first parliamentary question time since becoming British prime minister, David Cameron said the government would do whatever it could to help the communities affected.
"When lives and communities are suddenly shattered in this way, our thoughts should be with all those caught up in these tragic events, especially the families and friends of those killed or injured," he said.
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Armed police patrols and dog squads were dispatched in the hunt for the gunman after the first shots were fired at 10:35 a.m. (5:35 a.m. ET) in Whitehaven.
Police issued a photo of the suspected shooter, Derrick Bird, and urged members of the public to stay indoors until further notice.
More shots were fired in the small towns of Seascale and Egremont, with officers attempting to track the suspect on land and by air while ambulance crews attended the victims. Footage from one of the shooting scenes showed a covered body lying on a street.
"Police are working to identify the individuals and inform relatives," Cumbria police said. "Ambulance crews are in attendance across the area."
Peter Leder, who says he is a friend of Bird's, told CNN he spoke to Bird last night and Bird told him, "You won't see me again."
Bird was initially driving a dark gray or silver Citroen Picasso, but police later said he had abandoned his car in the area of Boot, in the Lake District, and was traveling on foot.
Soon afterwards police said they had found a body in a wooded area. Authorities seized a gun from the scene where the body was found.
The Lake District is a scenic rural retreat in northern England which is popular with walkers, hikers and tourists.
John Bevir, a reporter for CNN affiliate ITV, described nearby Whitehaven as a sleepy seaside town. "Things like this just don't happen here," he said. "Well, they didn't, until this morning."
Leder said Bird has been an independent taxi driver in Whitehaven for more than 20 years and described him as "an outgoing, well-known guy, who everyone liked."
Bird was divorced several years ago and has two children, both boys, who have moved away from home, he said. Bird is very close to his mother, who is very ill in a local nursing home, Leder said.
He said his friend enjoyed scuba diving, went on several diving trips abroad and practised regularly at the Whitehaven swimming baths.
The vehicle police said Bird was driving at the time of the shootings was his regular taxi cab, Leder said.
A police hotline was set up for concerned relatives of those involved.
Re: Gun violence in the UK
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:04 pm
by Daisy
It's horrible, utterly horrible.
We've been following the events all day at work and it's utterly unbelievable that this could happen anywhere, let alone here.
We're in shock

Re: Gun violence in the UK
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:31 pm
by Reality Bytes
As the details start to emerge it just gets even more disturbing, it appears he shot many of his victims in the face at point blank range. The casualties are 13 dead including the gunman, 25 injured of which 3 are in a life threatening condition and 5 others are serious but stable.
Re: Gun violence in the UK
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:52 pm
by Daisy
It's terrifying to think he was just picking people at random along his route.
What makes a person do this?
Re: Gun violence in the UK
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:27 pm
by Gob
Woke up to this news on the BBC website, truly horrible.
Re: Gun violence in the UK
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:43 pm
by BoSoxGal
We become somewhat inured to this kind of thing in the US, sadly. I would love to live in a society where something like this was such a terrible shock.
Anyway, condolences to my UK friends.
Re: Gun violence in the UK
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:19 am
by loCAtek
I'm sorry. I hope condolences are apt. These things shouldn't happen anywhere, but the world's gone mad.

Re: Gun violence in the UK
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:19 am
by @meric@nwom@n
This can happen anywhere there is a crazy person and a gun.
It's tough to understand why.
Re: Gun violence in the UK
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:31 am
by Gob
Sometimes you have to wonder...
Lady Gaga may have taken things too far this time by pretending to be murdered by a crazed killer on stage in Manchester - just hours after a horrific shooting spree across northern England.
Thousands of people at the concert looked on in horror as she was ambushed by a man dressed in black and fake blood spurted down her chest.
It was a routine performance for the singer but the scene on stage at the MEN Arena came after the mass slaughter by cab driver Derrick Bird, who killed 12 and injured 11 others in a gun rampage across Cumbria region before taking his own life.
http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/mus ... -xi0u.html
Silly bitch...
Re: Gun violence in the UK
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:35 am
by dales
When will this disgusting trollop's 15minutes of fame be up?

Re: Gun violence in the UK
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:15 am
by Reality Bytes
dales wrote:When will this disgusting trollop's 15minutes of fame be up?

Not soon enough as far as I'm concerned - she is nothing more than a Madonna clone with a lot less talent - I can't stand her.
Re: Gun violence in the UK
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:28 am
by Gob
Reality Bytes wrote:
she is nothing more than a Madonna clone with a lot less talent
Nailed it RB!
Re: Gun violence in the UK
Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:07 am
by Gob
Interesting perspectives from a psychologist.
This anger with other people in general can lead to a focus on those who most symbolise for the gunman the enemy on whom he must wreak revenge. Before James Huberty shot 41 people, killing 22, in a McDonald’s in San Diego in 1984, he had said that “society had its chance”. People in McDonald’s symbolised society.
Did “the public” whom Derrick Bird ferried around Cumbria come to represent all that was wrong with his world? Are there other taxi drivers who harbour a secret hatred of people whom they feel demeaned and insulted them? Bird had been knocked unconscious by a fare-dodging passenger in 2007. Did this contribute to a growing, hidden fury with all those whom he saw as against him?
Well worth a read.
Re: Gun violence in the UK
Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 9:19 am
by loCAtek
Reality Bytes wrote:dales wrote:When will this disgusting trollop's 15minutes of fame be up?

Not soon enough as far as I'm concerned - she is nothing more than a Madonna clone with a lot less talent - I can't stand her.
Is there a way to have less talent than Madonna?

Re: Gun violence in the UK
Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:08 am
by Reality Bytes
loCAtek wrote:Reality Bytes wrote:dales wrote:When will this disgusting trollop's 15minutes of fame be up?

Not soon enough as far as I'm concerned - she is nothing more than a Madonna clone with a lot less talent - I can't stand her.
Is there a way to have less talent than Madonna?

I didn't think so until this wannabe showed up
