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A number of people have been killed and several injured in a shooting at a university in California, police say.

TV footage showed wounded people emerging from buildings at Oikos University in the city of Oakland.

Police and armed response teams have surrounded the buildings, and a suspect has been detained. A nearby hospital said it was treating four victims.

Oikos University is a private religious institution offering courses in theology, music and nursing.

US media are quoting law enforcement sources as saying five people are dead.

Meanwhile, what appeared to be four bodies were seen outside a university building covered with tarpaulin, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.

Johnna Watson, of Oakland Police, said: "We know this to be a Korean college. A gunman came in to the college and fired multiple shots.

"We do have fatalities, I cannot confirm the number of fatalities we have at this time. We additionally have victims who have suffered from gunshot wounds."

Ms Watson added that medical services as well as police were at the scene.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17590859

A "Korean college"?

Sue U wrote:In the U.S., most institutions of higher learning are Korean, some just moreso than others (espcially the ones with good math and classical music programs).

The 43-year-old suspect told police he wanted to get back at the school and to inflict pain, Jordan said. There are conflicting reports about whether he was expelled, but the suspect left the school in November and told investigators he wasn't satisfied with the class he was taking. He was also upset with some classmates because he felt he was being teased -- particularly about his English skills -- and treated differently by them. People stopped talking to him and wouldn't even acknowledge him at times, he told investigators.

A gunman accused of killing seven people at a Christian college was an angry loner who hated women, had been fired from his job and felt overshadowed by his Iraq war veteran brother.



New details about One Goh, 43, a Korean-American nursing student, were disclosed as detectives released the first photograph of him, staring blankly into a camera hours after Monday's mass shooting in Oakland, California.

Romie John Delariman, a college teacher who knew Goh, said he was a keen student but felt paranoid about being an older man in classes where most pupils were young women. Six of those who died in the massacre were women and the only man to die was shot by Goh in a carjacking as he fled from the scene.

Mr Delariman said: "He said he was too old to go to school with all the young people and he said all his classmates were mean to him. He just can't deal with women. I always advised him, 'You go to school to learn, not to make friends'. He can't get along with people. If you say 'How are you?' he'll say 'Why? Don't I look OK? Did I do something to you?"'

The teacher said Goh had also boasted about beating up a mugger in San Francisco and talked about carrying a gun for protection. "I don't know if you could call it mentally unstable but sometimes he would brag that he was capable of hurting people," he added.

Goh had been expelled from Oikos University, a small 100-student religious education establishment, in January for "anger management" issues. He bought a semi-automatic pistol legally the following month.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/uni-shooter ... z1r6tohJpr

dales wrote: Perhaps what needs to be in place is..........far better access to mental health services in this country.

Would he have utlized such services if available?

I sincrely have my doubts.

Gob wrote:

dales wrote: Perhaps what needs to be in place is..........far better access to mental health services in this country.

Would he have utlized such services if available?

I sincrely have my doubts.

Do you not have such things as treatment orders for people at risk of harm to self or harm to others?

dales wrote:
Yes, usually a 48-hour "51-50 hold" is placed on an individual who threatens to harm him/herself or others.

dales wrote:"...

Yes, usually a 48-hour "51-50 hold" is placed on an individual who threatens to harm him/herself or others.

It is at this time that a patient's mental status can be ascertained and whether that person needs further treatment.

In this case, the individual never exhibited any signs of harmful behaviour toward himself or others. He had his issues (as we all do) perhaps they were just enough below the surface as to not alarm anyone.