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Regulating the colossal failure.
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:23 am
by Gob
REGULATING cannabis use could be the way forward because of the "colossal failure" of the war on drugs, a report says.
..The report suggests the establishment of hard-to-get, easy-to-lose licences for the cultivation, wholesale and retail supply of cannabis, including for medicinal use.
Plain packets of the drug would feature warning labels with all advertising and political donations from cannabis companies banned.
The Australia 21 Alternatives to Prohibition report, released today, is the result of a round table in July of 22 experts and young people, canvassing new approaches to drug policy.
Among the report's authors is the University of Melbourne's former dean of medicine David Penington, who has proposed decriminalisation for possession and use of cannabis and ecstasy for people 16 and over.
Users would be recorded on a national register and could purchase cannabis from an approved government supplier in regulated amounts.
"There would be full cost recovery of production and distribution, including a dispensing fee, in the price to clients," Professor Penington said in the report.
"Counselling and treatment should be available to any dependent users as a health service, akin to that provided by society to other individuals with serious afflictions."
Australia 21 director Alex Wodak, another of the report's authors, said that under the proposal cannabis, instead of being controlled by criminal and corrupt police, would be regulated.
"I don't use the term 'legalisation' because no two people agree what the term means," Dr Wodak said today.
"It would be legal like alcohol and tobacco."
The system would allow government to have a say in how the market operates and get help to users, Dr Wodak said.
"We would be able to put warning labels on the packets," he said.
"We'd be able to provide information to consumers about what they're buying. It's basically a system that can be controlled and regulated."
Dr Wodak predicts the push will generate controversy but says prohibition has not worked.
"Most people accept the view drug prohibition has been a colossal failure," he said.
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Re: Regulating the colossal failure.
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:28 am
by oldr_n_wsr
use of cannabis and ecstasy for people 16 and over.
What are the legal drinking and smoking ages in Australia?
Re: Regulating the colossal failure.
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:52 am
by Scooter
Users would be recorded on a national register and could purchase cannabis from an approved government supplier in regulated amounts.
Oh sure, people who use marijuana and ecstasy are going to be jumping all over themselves to put themselves on a government list of drug users
Let government control the market, so it can test the product for safety reasons and distribute whatever information it wants to consumers, but hardly anyone is going to identify themselves to the government as a drug user. This will not undercut the supply of drugs from the black market by any significant amount.
Re: Regulating the colossal failure.
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:35 pm
by Gob
oldr_n_wsr wrote:use of cannabis and ecstasy for people 16 and over.
What are the legal drinking and smoking ages in Australia?
18 drinking, 16 smoking.
Re: Regulating the colossal failure.
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:40 pm
by dales
21/18
drinking/smoking
youth is indeed wasted on the young
Re: Regulating the colossal failure.
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:48 pm
by Gob
Just to clarify;
Sales of tobacco to children under the age of 18 are illegal in all Australian states and territories. It is also illegal for a person over 18 to give a child under 16 cigarettes or tobacco products. It is as well, illegal for a person under 18 to purchase cigarettes The smoking age varies among states and territories but 18 to purchase.
Re: Regulating the colossal failure.
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:19 am
by oldr_n_wsr
Thanks
We have 21 for drinking and I believe 19 for smoking here in NY.
Is it me or are we keeping our children dependent (for lack of a better word) longer?
Or are we just making laws designed to keep them that way?
ETA
And I never agreed with the shift to 21yo drinking age. One can go enlist and die for their country but not have a beer?

Re: Regulating the colossal failure.
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:37 am
by MajGenl.Meade
TEENAGER #1: I'm sixteen, I'm old enough to marry and have children, but I can't drink in pubs. When will the government wake up and realize that young adults are mature and responsible people?
--EXT: STREET
TEENAGER #2: I'm sixteen, right? I can join the Army, the Air Force and the Navy... but I can't drink in pubs. When will the government, right, realize that young adults have a valued contribution to give to society?
--EXT: STREET
[TEENAGER sniffing glue. He reacts visibly before speaking.]
TEENAGER #3: A lot of people say that young adults are violent, right? But how would you feel if you were old enough to have... intercourse with the partner of your choice... and yet you could not drink in pubs?
--INT: STUDIO/DANCE FLOOR
BAZ: There you go! That's the problem! What do you with an evening if you're a young adult and yet you can't go drinking in pubs?