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Now is the winter of our discontent.....
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:12 pm
by Gob
made glorious summer by this Leicester car park ...
Richard III dig: Archaeologists 'tantalisingly close'
The search for the grave of Richard III under a Leicester car park is "tantalisingly close" to its goal, officials have said.
Richard was killed at the nearby battle of Bosworth in 1485 and is believed to have been buried in Greyfriars church.
Archaeologists from the University of Leicester have found traces of this building and have now gained permission to extend the dig.
Originally scheduled for two weeks, it will now run for at least three.
Documents traced by the team show Richard was buried in the choir of the church.
Trenches across the car park uncovered walls which are now confirmed as being part of the church - but not exactly which part.
Richard Buckley, co-director of University of Leicester Archaeological Services, said: "We are now tantalisingly close in our search and will investigate the choir where Richard is presumed to be buried.
"Whether we find Richard or not, this dig has been a huge success in terms of revealing the heritage of Leicester and I am proud that the University of Leicester has played a pivotal role in the telling of that story."
Philippa Langley from the Richard III Society said: "If we can make the right estimate of where we are in the church, that is what we have to do now, we have to go for it.
"We have been given this week extension, we could possibly get another, so it's game on."
On Saturday more than 1,500 people queued to see the site during an open day.
"Richard the third" is also cockney rhyming slang...
Re: Now is the winter of our discontent.....
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:03 pm
by Guinevere
Cool! But I'd be more impressed if they could find the bodies of his nephews....
Re: Now is the winter of our discontent.....
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:08 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
School class room in Ireland.
Teacher: "Can anyone name a historical figure from England?"
Boy 1: "Dick Shit"
Teacher: "No more of that Seamus - anyone else?"
Boy 2: "Richard the T'ird"
Boy 1: "And is that not what I said?"
Re: Now is the winter of our discontent.....
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:12 pm
by Guinevere
Josephine Tey's The Daughter of Time is a must read if you haven't yet. Convinced me that old Crouchback was innocent of all charges.
Re: Now is the winter of our discontent.....
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:10 pm
by Gob
Archaeologists searching for the grave of Richard III have said "strong circumstantial evidence" points to a skeleton being the lost king.
The English king died at the battle of Bosworth in 1485.
A dig under a council car park in Leicester has found remains with spinal abnormalities and a "cleaved-in skull" that suggest it could be Richard III.
The University of Leicester will now test the bones for DNA against descendants of Richard's family.
Professor Lin Foxhall, head of the university's School of Archaeology, said: "Archaeology almost never finds named individuals - this is absolutely extraordinary.
"Although we are far from certain yet, it is already astonishing."
Edited to add; A nice way of teaching history...
YouTube: Fancy dress history teacher posts lessons online
A teacher is giving history lessons by dressing up as famous characters from the past and filming them on YouTube for his pupils.
David Perkins felt his class of 11 to 13-year-olds at Duffryn High School in Newport were bored with learning through books and blackboards.
The 28-year-old started off in 1066 dressing up as William the Conqueror for the Battle of Hastings.
He told pupils: "Go home and log on to YouTube".
Mr Perkins bought a box of wigs and made some colourful costumes to film himself acting out the lives of great historical figures for the videos which are up to five minutes long.
His videos have received hundreds of hits online.
"I just wanted to try a new way of presenting history and what better than YouTube?" he said.
"The kids love to see teachers making fun of themselves and they just seem more receptive - it's had a really good reaction."
Mr Perkins has also dressed up as the last Anglo Saxon King Harold Godwinson who died after an arrow pierced his eye in the battle.
And he also played Norwegian King Harald Hardrada who was involved in the same year in a struggle for the English crown.
Medieval priest Martin Luther and a mythical monk by the name of Friar Perkins are other characters and he plans to bring Elizabeth I - the Virgin Queen - to life in later videos as well as pathologists who examined the victims of Jack The Ripper.
"The children love using computers and mobile phones so I thought I'd try and reach them that way," Mr Perkins said.
David Perkins in his real guise David Perkins in his real guise
"You need to change things you are doing with the kids - if you don't keep it fresh it's like everything, it becomes old and boring.
"We need to change the rules of how we deliver."
He added: "I don't have a script I just go in front of the camera and wing it - although we've had to stop filming a couple of times because I am prone to get the giggles."
Re: Now is the winter of our discontent.....
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:26 pm
by Sue U
Archaeologists searching for the grave of Richard III have said "strong circumstantial evidence" points to a skeleton the lost king being the lost king a skeleton.
Certainly a safer bet.
Re: Now is the winter of our discontent.....
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:33 pm
by Gob
LOL!!

Re: Now is the winter of our discontent.....
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:06 pm
by The Hen
I read a book about Richard the Third once.
I think the author was Bacon.
Mmmmm Bacon.
Re: Now is the winter of our discontent.....
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:33 am
by rubato
Guinevere wrote:Josephine Tey's The Daughter of Time is a must read if you haven't yet. Convinced me that old Crouchback was innocent of all charges.
I will be VERY disappointed if he is. What a boring idea!
yrs,
rubato
Re: Now is the winter of our discontent.....
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:17 am
by Guinevere
Oh no, not in the least. As in many situations, the coverup is far more complex and interesting than the crime. It's a fascinating book, written in 1951, but well worth a read now.
Re: Now is the winter of our discontent.....
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:18 am
by Guinevere
The Hen wrote:I read a book about Richard the Third once.
I think the author was Bacon.
Mmmmm Bacon.
"Truth is the daughter of time, not authority"
And see, e.g., Tonypandy.
Re: Now is the winter of our discontent.....
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:37 pm
by rubato
But the play only works if he is Scheming and EEEEVIL! I'll look up a copy of the book but I have doubts about its being an improvement.
yrs,
rubato
Re: Now is the winter of our discontent.....
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:12 pm
by Guinevere
You recall who rebelled against and murdered Richard III, yes? That's the point of the play -- Shakespeare sucking up to the Tudor queen. Of course it's good -- because it is also quite possibly pure fiction.
Re: Now is the winter of our discontent.....
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:43 pm
by Scooter
He's gotten a pretty raw deal in the telling of history - if he was guilty of murder to secure his accession, it wasn't any worse that what many medieval kings had done before him. He was (for the time) remarkably lenient in his treatment of those found or suspected of rebelling against him; he certainly compares very favourably to his Tudor successors in that respect. And he left a legacy of sound legal and fiscal policy including protections for commoners from the whims of the nobility, strengthening the jury system, introducing a system of bail for those accused of crimes, and revitilizing the economy of the North which had remained ravaged since the area had been laid waste by its Norman conquerers.
Oh yeah, and he made English the official language of government for the first time since the Conquest.
All in all, not too shabby for a reign of two years.
Re: Now is the winter of our discontent.....
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:48 pm
by Gob
Re: Now is the winter of our discontent.....
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:52 am
by rubato
Killjoys
yrs,
rubato
Re: Now is the winter of our discontent.....
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:28 am
by Beer Sponge
Gob wrote:
Now is the winter of our discount tent...

Re: Now is the winter of our discontent.....
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:39 am
by Gob
Disco tent, note mirror ball

Re: Now is the winter of our discontent.....
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:08 am
by The Hen
Ouch!
The pain, the pain ...
Re: Now is the winter of our discontent.....
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:59 pm
by Scooter
Ok, turning Shakespeare into bad puns is just so completely wrong.