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“Since the October War in 1973, Washington has provided Israel with a level of support dwarfing the amounts provided to any other state. It has been the largest annual recipient of direct U.S. economic and military assistance since 1976 and the largest total recipient since World War ll. Total direct U.S. aid to Israel amounts to well over $140 billion in 2003 dollars. Israel receives about $3 billion in direct foreign assistance each year, which is roughly one-fifth of America's entire foreign aid budget. In per capita terms, the United States gives each Israeli a direct subsidy worth about $500 per year. This largesse is especially striking when one realizes that Israel is now a wealthy industrial state with a per capita income roughly equal to South Korea or Spain.”
You really are a nasty little person; hold your breath until you pass out and shut up for a while. It will remove one cause for embarrassment from this country.dales wrote:Will the United States Of America get one thin dime from any other countries in the world?
After all the billions we've shelled out for over half a century to aid other nations after natural disasters?
Will we?
I'm not holding my breath.
Projecting again, are we?rubato wrote:
You really are a nasty little person; hold your breath until you pass out and shut up for a while.
yrs,
rubato
Let them, I say.dgs49 wrote:
Why would we want aid from any other country? The Chinese will lend us all the dollars we need.
Israel no longer receives any economic aid from the US, except for a refugee resettlement program. (When it did, the amount was minuscule compared to military aid.) Of the military "aid," three-fourths of it goes directly to American defense contractors (supporting 60,000 to 70,000 American workers) who use Israel as a laboratory for developing their products. I read somewhere that something like 600 modificatons to the F-15 were introduced as a result of Israeli suggestions for improvement. Of the aid spent on Israeli defense industries, a significant amount goes to R&D programs whose developments are shared with the US military, as well as to joint ventures in developing new sytems such as missile defense. Israel also acts as a forward base and munitions stockpile for the US military's activities in the region, to say nothing of its intelligence services to the US.Gob wrote:Israel owes you more than a few bucks, ask them...
“Since the October War in 1973, Washington has provided Israel with a level of support dwarfing the amounts provided to any other state. It has been the largest annual recipient of direct U.S. economic and military assistance since 1976 and the largest total recipient since World War ll. Total direct U.S. aid to Israel amounts to well over $140 billion in 2003 dollars. Israel receives about $3 billion in direct foreign assistance each year, which is roughly one-fifth of America's entire foreign aid budget. In per capita terms, the United States gives each Israeli a direct subsidy worth about $500 per year. This largesse is especially striking when one realizes that Israel is now a wealthy industrial state with a per capita income roughly equal to South Korea or Spain.”
That's a drop in the bucket compared to what one dead beat country owes us from WW I:Israel owes you more than a few bucks, ask them...
Plan on paying up any time soon?Britain borrowed heavily from the USA during World War I, and many loans from this period remain in a curious state of limbo. In 1931, President Herbert Hoover announced a one-year moratorium on war loan repayments from all nations, due to the global economic crisis, but by 1934 Britain still owed the USA $4.4bn of WWI debt (about £866m at 1934 exchange rates). Adjusted for inflation, that would amount to around £40bn today, and if adjusted by the growth of British GDP, to about £225 billion. During the Great Depression Britain effectively ceased payments on these loans, which have never been formally written off.[9]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kin ... ional_debt
The UK is about to pay off the last of its World War II loans from the US.
On 31 December 2006, the UK will make a payment of about $83m (£45.5m) to the US and so discharge the last of its loans from World War II from its transatlantic ally.
It is hard from a modern viewpoint to appreciate the astronomical costs and economic damage caused by this conflict. In 1945, Britain badly needed money to pay for reconstruction and also to import food for a nation worn down after years of rationing.
"In a nutshell, everything we got from America in World War II was free," says economic historian Professor Mark Harrison, of Warwick University.
"The loan was really to help Britain through the consequences of post-war adjustment, rather than the war itself. This position was different from World War I, where money was lent for the war effort itself."
OUTSTANDING WWI LOANS
Britain owed to US in 1934: £866m
Adjusted by RPI to 2006: £40bn
Other nations owed Britain: £2.3bn
Adjusted by RPI to 2006: £104bn
Many Britons felt that the US loans should be considered as part of its contribution to the World War I effort.
Seems unkind? You don't have a kind bone in your body.dgs49 wrote:A slight tangent - pardon me if it seems unkind.
To those who insisted on purchasing ungodly expensive little hovels in those cute little towns on the shore: Deal with it yourself. You are there because you wanted to be there, and you paid a huge premium for the privelege. And I hope you are grateful for your taxpayer-subsidized flood insurance because in the opinion of just about everyone who is aware of it, this is a boondoggle that should be eliminated.
Why would we want aid from any other country? The Chinese will lend us all the dollars we need.
Question: Will Barry exploit this as a "jobs creator"?
That's good...The UK is about to pay off the last of its World War II loans from the US
)dgs49 wrote:A slight tangent - pardon me if it seems unkind.
To those who insisted on purchasing ungodly expensive little hovels in those cute little towns on the shore: Deal with it yourself. You are there because you wanted to be there, and you paid a huge premium for the privelege. And I hope you are grateful for your taxpayer-subsidized flood insurance because in the opinion of just about everyone who is aware of it, this is a boondoggle that should be eliminated.
Why would we want aid from any other country? The Chinese will lend us all the dollars we need.
Question: Will Barry exploit this as a "jobs creator"?
You'll have to wait. We're still trying to figure out how we're going to pay you lot for the privilege of putting ships to sea...Lord Jim wrote:That's good...The UK is about to pay off the last of its World War II loans from the US
Now you can start paying off that 40 billion you still owe from WW I....
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And as I read that article, that 40 billion only reflects the principle adjusted for inflation, not whatever the interest rate of the loans were....
Which compounded over 90 plus years, even at a low rate, should amount to a tidy sum....
Cash will be fine...No personal checks please....
UK involvement in WWI was voluntary stupidity on their part and served no beneficial purpose which deserved the lives thrown away by some of the worst generals in history (yours).Gob wrote:The UK is about to pay off the last of its World War II loans from the US.
On 31 December 2006, the UK will make a payment of about $83m (£45.5m) to the US and so discharge the last of its loans from World War II from its transatlantic ally.
It is hard from a modern viewpoint to appreciate the astronomical costs and economic damage caused by this conflict. In 1945, Britain badly needed money to pay for reconstruction and also to import food for a nation worn down after years of rationing.
"In a nutshell, everything we got from America in World War II was free," says economic historian Professor Mark Harrison, of Warwick University.
"The loan was really to help Britain through the consequences of post-war adjustment, rather than the war itself. This position was different from World War I, where money was lent for the war effort itself."
OUTSTANDING WWI LOANS
Britain owed to US in 1934: £866m
Adjusted by RPI to 2006: £40bn
Other nations owed Britain: £2.3bn
Adjusted by RPI to 2006: £104bn
Many Britons felt that the US loans should be considered as part of its contribution to the World War I effort.
Sean wrote: ...
You'll have to wait. We're still trying to figure out how we're going to pay you lot for the privilege of putting ships to sea...
rube missed the earlier thread reference...rubato wrote:Sean wrote:
You'll have to wait. We're still trying to figure out how we're going to pay you lot for the privilege of putting ships to sea...
Ever since the revolutionary war our navy has dominated every sea it has sailed in. The UK navy have been a dim 2nd or 4th to us ever since.
yrs,
rubato
That. I have a very hard time mustering up sympathy for anyone stupid enough to live on a barrier island!dgs49 wrote:A slight tangent - pardon me if it seems unkind.
To those who insisted on purchasing ungodly expensive little hovels in those cute little towns on the shore: Deal with it yourself. You are there because you wanted to be there, and you paid a huge premium for the privilege. And I hope you are grateful for your taxpayer-subsidized flood insurance because in the opinion of just about everyone who is aware of it, this is a boondoggle that should be eliminated.
Jesus fuck, you're a goddamn moron.rubato wrote:Sean wrote: ...
You'll have to wait. We're still trying to figure out how we're going to pay you lot for the privilege of putting ships to sea...
Ever since the revolutionary war our navy has dominated every sea it has sailed in. The UK navy have been a dim 2nd or 4th to us ever since.
yrs,
rubato