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Because it's the 1970's again:

Gasoline Runs Short, Adding Woes to Storm Recovery




UNION, N.J. — Widespread gas shortages stirred fears among residents and disrupted some rescue and emergency services on Thursday as the New York region struggled to return to a semblance of normalcy after being ravaged by Hurricane Sandy.

The lines of cars waiting for gas at a Sunoco here ran in three directions: a mile-long line up the Garden State Parkway, a half-mile line along Vauxhall Road, and another, including a fleet of mail trucks that needed to refuel before resuming their rounds, snaking through a back entrance. The scene was being replayed across the state as drivers waited in lines that ran hundreds of vehicles deep, requiring state troopers and local police to protect against exploding tempers.

“I’ve been pumping gas for 36 hours, I pumped 17,000 gallons,” said Abhishek Soni, the owner of an Exxon in Montclair, where disputes on the line Wednesday night had become so heated that Mr. Soni called the police and turned off the pumps for 45 minutes to restore calm. “My nose, my mouth is bleeding from the fumes. The fighting just makes it worse.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/02/nyreg ... d=all&_r=0

We've had no such problems in South Jersey, although at the shore open gas stations are few and far between. In fat, gas prices have been coming down here over the last month and that has continued through the last week as well.

It looks like you really got lucky Sue (from that same article):

About 43 percent of customers in New Jersey and about 16 percent in New York State remained without electricity, and officials said that they expected power to be restored to all of Manhattan by Saturday. Those issues were only aggravated by the increasingly short supply of gas, particularly given that many suburban residents in New Jersey and elsewhere were heading to the stations to fuel generators, which provided the lone source of power and heat to homes across the region.

According to figures from AAA, of the gas stations it monitors, roughly 60 percent of stations in New Jersey and 70 percent on Long Island were closed.

From what you're saying it sound likes about half the state population escaped largely unscathed while the other half is really hammered....

Well, fully half the state's population lives in just seven northern counties that are essentially NYC suburbs, and they got hit the hardest. Aside from the shore, it seems most everything south of Trenton (the point of the sharp angle on the left/west side of the state) got by with just a few bruises.

Thanks for that visual Sue.

Once the dust settles, and Jersey is somewhat on the mend, just watch how Governor Chris Crispy grabs the national spotlight. Much like Rudy Giuliani in the aftermath of 9/11. I see presidential timber being shaped here.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/1 ... lowin.html

RayThom wrote:Once the dust settles, and Jersey is somewhat on the mend, just watch how Governor Chris Crispy grabs the national spotlight. Much like Rudy Giuliani in the aftermath of 9/11. I see presidential timber being shaped here.

More the consistency of blubber than timber. And he does not have the kind of life expectancy that one wants in a chief executive.


yrs,
rubato

That's very clever rube...

"the consistency of blubber"....

Very droll...you're a veritable Noel Coward....

However, your attention is needed here:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7793&p=98118&hilit= ... ume#p98118

rubato wrote: More the consistency of blubber than timber. And he does not have the kind of life expectancy that one wants in a chief executive.
yrs,
rubato

Shurely you mean, "does have the kind of life expectancy that one wants in a (Republican) chief executive"?

Life expectancy or not, he also doesn't have the temperament for a national campaign; this guy sticks his foot in his mouth more than Dan Quayle. His bluster and bullying might play well in NJ, but it would not play all that well elsewhere.

On the thread, just announced this AM, odd/even gas rationing in most northern NJ counties--the 70s roll on.

this guy sticks his foot in his mouth

Kind of surprising given his figure...

MajGenl.Meade wrote:

rubato wrote: More the consistency of blubber than timber. And he does not have the kind of life expectancy that one wants in a chief executive.
yrs,
rubato

Shurely you mean, "does have the kind of life expectancy that one wants in a (Republican) chief executive"?

With someone like Ryan in the VP spot? Replacing scary with scarier. Of course if Ryan was getting on the aerial skyway at S.D. Zoo I'd want Christie with him.



yrs,
rubato

Getting gas still sucks here. Even a couple of days after the storm many gas stations had power, they just had no gas. Most stations are on main roads and those got power much quicker than neighborhoods. Problem was supply then the stupid ethanol they had to mix in which is done here on the island. Forst they were saying they couldn't mix it fast enough, then they were runninng into a shortage of ethanol. Finally someone said to suspend making the "winter mix" and just get the gas out. Why didn't I think of that??!!??

Someone here at work said she waited 4 hours to get gas last night. Crazy

Hopefully today/tomrrow it will get a little more normal. Going to/from my meeting last night I saw no less than 10 tankers either going to the holtsville transfer station or leaving. And before last night the only stations I saw that had gas consistently were Hess stations, last night a bunch of indies had gas. and the indies hadn't had gas for the past week