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Freedom of speech issue

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:40 am
by Gob
A teenager who drunkenly posted a picture of himself burning a poppy on Facebook was in police custody last night.

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Officers arrested Linford House after they received a complaint about the image that was published in the early hours of Remembrance Sunday. When police called at his parents’ home that evening, the 19-year-old had already taken down the image on a friend’s advice.

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Teenager is arrested for burning a poppy on Facebook: Family brand him 'idiotic' but say police went too farMan named locally as Linford House, 19, from Kent was arrested on suspicion of an offence under the Malicious Communications Act

A man, named locally as Linford House 19, was arrested yesterday after the image (left) appeared online. The words on the right image have been written on by a third party, who posted it online. It showed a cigarette lighter with a flame catching light to the bottom of a poppy, allegedly with the words: ‘How about that you squadey [sic] ****s’.

The student was questioned by detectives for several hours yesterday afternoon and last night he was still in custody facing a second night behind bars. His father Keith, 50, branded him ‘idiotic’ and said the whole family had been disappointed by his behaviour. But he questioned whether it was right to hold the teenager.

‘He has been stupid but it’s totally out of order to arrest him over one complaint,’ he said. ‘I would have preferred if they had come, taken him to the police station and told him off. ‘We’ve been told he cannot stay at ours and should go to relatives or friends in case people are out there wanting to carry out reprisal attacks. That’s the advice of the police. We’ve had loads of phone calls from people who are angry and outraged.’

He said his son had got very drunk at a party before he posted the picture: ‘He was woken up by a phone call from one of my mates telling him to remove it. He couldn’t remember putting it up. ‘He deleted it as soon as he realised. The next thing we know is that he has been arrested.’

House was arrested under the Malicious Communications Act, which carries a maximum sentence of six months in jail and/or a £5,000 fine. His grandmother Valerie said: ‘He’s been an idiot while drunk but the police have gone over the top on this one.’ The family from Aylesham near Canterbury has the support of civil liberties groups, which claim the arrest is an infringement of free speech.

Nick Pickles, from pressure group Big Brother Watch, said: ‘It is not illegal to offend people and, however idiotic or insensitive the picture may have been, it is certainly not worthy of arrest. ‘The case highlights the urgent need to reform a law that poses a serious risk to freedom of speech.’ Agnes Callamard, of the Article 19 campaign group, said: ‘Causing offence, showing poor judgment or expressing views which people find to be in bad taste should not amount to criminal prosecution.’


Re: Freedom of speech issue

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:13 am
by Scooter
That's completely fucked. The police should be charged with false arrest.

Re: Freedom of speech issue

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:22 am
by rubato
I think I'd wait and see the end before I started complaining.

He was an asshole and got a good 'corrective action'.

May be nothing more than that.

yrs,
rubato

Re: Freedom of speech issue

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:49 am
by Gob
I'm only pleased that his name, location and picture are now widely available.

Re: Freedom of speech issue

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:41 am
by Roo
I have nothing to say If I did it would involve the words "head kicking and F#$Kwhit"

Re: Freedom of speech issue

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:06 pm
by Sue U
I like to think that here in the US and A this kind of idiocy doesn't happen. A heart-felt and effusive public apology is in order. On the part of the police. In my country, an arrest like this would be a clear violation of First Amedment rights and would open the municipal authorities to a lawsuit.

Haven't the police got anything better to do? Aren't there some actual criminals that might need arresting? Why is police action even considered an option in this case?

Re: Freedom of speech issue

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:19 pm
by Big RR
Spot on Sue. He was an asshole, but he had (or should have had) the freedom to be one.

Re: Freedom of speech issue

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:25 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
I don't know if was on this board or another, but there have been comments about how us Americans (citizens of the USA) value our flag and how other nations do not hold theirs in as high as regard. Yet now, a poppy causes a stir similar to flag burning here.

Of course I could be remembering incorrectly.
:shrug

ETA
Maybe the kid just thought he could snort some opiate smoke. :nana