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And as if there is not enough depressing news.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:05 am
by liberty
The only mitigation for me is that they were Army and not Air Force, disgusting.

..U.S. Army soldier faces discharge after Asian-American soldier's hazing
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WINSTON-SALEM, North Carolina (Reuters) - The leader of a platoon whose members were accused of hazing an Asian-American soldier who killed himself in Afghanistan has been punished and will be discharged from the U.S. Army, officials said on Monday.

First Lieutenant Daniel Schwartz was the highest ranking of eight soldiers charged in connection with 19-year-old Private Danny Chen's suicide and the last to have his case resolved.

Chen, the only Chinese-American in his unit, fatally shot himself in a guard tower in southern Afghanistan in October 2011 after enduring weeks of disparaging taunts and physical mistreatment from his superiors, military prosecutors said.

Members of the platoon were accused of calling him racially derogatory names such as "gook," "slants" and "egg roll." Prosecutors said they threw rocks at him, dragged him across gravel and tied sandbags to his arms at the remote combat outpost where Chen began his first deployment in August 2011.

His death prompted activists to call for more protections against abuse for Asian-American service members, who make up 4 percent of the active-duty U.S. military.

Schwartz, who faced dereliction of duty charges, was punished through an Article 15 administrative proceeding that was not open to the public, officials at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, said on Monday.

Details of his punishment were not released. As part of the disposition, the charges against him were withdrawn, officials said.

He will leave the Army, though a decision has not yet been made about whether his discharge will be honorable or dishonorable, said Fort Bragg spokesman Ben Abel.

Other soldiers accused in the case received an array of punishments after being found guilty earlier this year on charges such as maltreatment, assault, hazing and dereliction of duty.

Sentences included reduced ranks, forfeited pay, hard labor and short jail sentences. Only one soldier was discharged for bad conduct, a point of frustration for Chen's parents and supporters.

"At a very minimum, all eight should be discharged," said Elizabeth OuYang, president of the New York chapter of the Organization of Chinese Americans, which has been advocating on behalf of Chen and his family.

Danny Chen was the only child of Chinese immigrants who live in New York City.

"The most jail time received was six months," OuYang said. "This is a situation where you have someone who died. These slap-on-the-wrist punishments do not equate at all with the value of Danny Chen's life." (Reporting by Colleen Jenkins; Editing by Greg McCune and Lisa Shumaker)

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Re: And as if there is not enough depressing news.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:24 am
by liberty
His death was honorable, but the way he was treated was not. I suspect he had the misfortune to fall into a unit commanded by uniformed civilians. We had them in the air force too but they were mostly Airmen and lower ranking NCOs, I saw few officers that I suspected of not buying into the concept.

Re: And as if there is not enough depressing news.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:39 am
by Sean
liberty wrote:The only mitigation for me is that they were Army and not Air Force, disgusting.
I don't get it... How or why is this mitigation?

Re: And as if there is not enough depressing news.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:04 am
by liberty
Sean wrote:
liberty wrote:The only mitigation for me is that they were Army and not Air Force, disgusting.
I don't get it... How or why is this mitigation?
We are both military those unit leaders and myself, but they are army and I am Air force so at least I have that. Perhaps they thought the private was a poor replacement, but that is irrelevant; it was their duty to do the best they could with what got. The punishment should have been much more severe.

mitigation = Lessening

Re: And as if there is not enough depressing news.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:05 am
by Sean
I am well aware of what the word 'mitigation' means lib, that is why your sentence seems odd. I think you phrased it badly. As written, it states that the fact that they were Army makes what they did okay... or at least not so bad.

Re: And as if there is not enough depressing news.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:58 am
by liberty
Sean wrote:I am well aware of what the word 'mitigation' means lib, that is why your sentence seems odd. I think you phrased it badly. As written, it states that the fact that they were Army makes what they did okay... or at least not so bad.
You are correct Sean one writes for the reader; if you did not understand it I wrote it poorly. The purpose of communication to is to be understood. What I was trying to say is that the impact of the betrayal I felt was lessened by the fact it was not an Air force unit. Sometime I take too many short cuts and expect the receiver to fill in the blanks, a violation of the principles communications 101.

Re: And as if there is not enough depressing news.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:08 am
by Sean
No worries lib, we're on the same page now. :ok