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Too many single moms in the black community. Where the hell are all the black men who knock up these stupid women then walk away. J#sus H. Ch#rst of a crakcer! :arg

Own up to your responsiblity black men and stop acting like n#ggers!



14-year-old C.J. Jones murders family, burns down apartment and slits his own throat, cops believe
BY Kevin Deutsch, Sarah Armaghan and Jonathan Lemire
DAILY NEWS WRITERS

Friday, July 23rd 2010, 4:00 AM



Troubled teen had love of fire, psych issues: school officialsA fire-obsessed 14-year-old Staten Island boy is suspected of the unthinkable - setting his home ablaze as he murdered his family and then slitting his own throat with a straight razor.

Investigators believe C.J. Jones cut the throats of at least two of his younger siblings on Thursday, then ended his own life as the tidy apartment went up in flames.


C.J. was found in the back bedroom of the modest Port Richmond apartment, a razor filched from his mother's hairstyling kit lodged under his body, the sources said.

His three younger siblings and mother, Leisha Jones, lay dead steps away in the living room.

"You'd think only a monster could do this, not a little boy," said Chandra Franklin, 29, a family friend.

"He was a troublemaker when he was younger but we thought he grew out of that. He was the man of the house," she said. "I don't know why he did this, he must have been going through something no one could see."..................................duh, d-ya thinks so????

At first, investigators did not think the fire was suspicious. Then they examined the badly burned bodies and realized C.J.'s sisters - Brittany, 10, and Melony, 7 - had had their throats cut, the sources said.

The dead girls were found in the charred living room near their brother, 2-year-old Jermaine, and the body of 33-year-old mom Leisha Jones.

Jermaine died at the hospital. Investigators think the little boy and his mother - found facedown as if she was crawling to the door - died of smoke inhalation.

The three-alarm blaze tore through the second-floor Nicholas Ave. home at 4:15 a.m. and firefighters fought through a wall of flames to find the bodies.

Investigators believe the fire was set just inside the front door, possibly to prevent rescuers from entering the home, sources said.

Detectives are not certain what led to the bloodbath, stunning for its brutality and the young age of the killer.

Investigators were zeroing in on the teen's recent rash of unstable behavior, sources said.................fcuking brilliant!

C.J. was kicked out of summer classes at Intermediate School 72 after igniting a fire in a bathroom, and he clashed with his mother, a security guard at Macy's on Staten Island, after setting fire to a bathroom towel at home, neighbors and sources said.

Hours before the inferno, C.J. was spotted igniting pieces of paper outside the family's Nicholas Ave. home as his siblings rode bicycles and drank apple juice.

The teen also had been ejected from nearby Faber Pool that afternoon for setting a fire, the sources said. Staffers at local pools, however, did not remember a boy setting a fire.


"He wasn't an evil child," said stunned neighbor Shaquawna Meaders, 25. "He loved his brother and sisters [and] he was a happy-go-lucky kid."

"[He was] the man of the house," Franklin said. "He took care of his sisters like a dad."

"He never let anything bad happen to them," she said.
.....beyond stupid

No one else in the building was injured. The apartment did not have a smoke detector, which is mandated by law, officials said.

The device must be provided by the building's landlord. The landlord at Jones' building, Albert Morcos, is on vacation in Egypt, residents said.
.....cheap-ass bastard!!! :arg

Stunned by the deaths, relatives and friends mourned Leisha Jones, whom they applauded as a model mother.

"My family, my family!" wailed Marcia Anderson, Leisha Jones' mother.

"She was such a nice person and she was a really good mother," said a weeping Anderson. "She loved her kids ... and I loved her."

jlemire@nydailynews.com

With Alison Gendar and Michael J. Feeney


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crim ... z0uerH9alQ

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There's a chance an untreated early psychosis may be involved here...
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That, and the burden of a deep recession, economic, family life on an unprepared 'male provider'.
IOW Life took a big shit on him, when he wasn't ready for it.

Dunno why, but men think: if I can't care for them, I'll kill them, then take my self out as compensation.

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Dunno why, but men think: if I can't care for them, I'll kill them, then take my self out as compensation.
Thankfully very few men actually do that, but there's a good point here...

This sort of behavior; "kill the family then kill yourself"...when it happens...

Is usually carried out by grown men; the father in the family unit, snapping under severe financial duress...and possibly the pending break up of the family...

Which is what makes this case so odd....

But usually in those more typical cases, there's no prior history of any significant "bad acts"...the guy just keeps it all bottled in until one day he just loses it...

Which makes me think that while this case may look like those other cases on the surface, Strop has probably hit on something here that really makes it different...

This kid was a walking ball of anti-social behavior...warning bells were going off all over the place...this kind of psychosis is almost always progressive.
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Indeed.....

There are services available.

The kid should have been assessed

instead, freinds and relatives were too lazy and stupid to do anything about it.

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Even intelligent and energetic people who are not familiar with mental illness would not know what to do.

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Too bad nobody did what needed to be done: Shoot him like the rabid dog he is.
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Jarl, you're gonna run outta ammo one of these days...

"So many who need shooting...so few bullets".... :D
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rubato wrote:Even intelligent and energetic people who are not familiar with mental illness would not know what to do.

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I disagree, if one really cares about a family member.....one will find the resources to help said family member.

Not explain away and make excuses for psycho-social maliciousness which this kid was clearly demonstrating.

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dales wrote:
rubato wrote:Even intelligent and energetic people who are not familiar with mental illness would not know what to do.

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I disagree, if one really cares about a family member.....one will find the resources to help said family member.
If one is already desperately struggling to put food in the mouths of one's various family members and to keep a roof over their heads, then "one will find the resources" seems rather facile.
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Over here, and in the UK, it would take one phone call to the child mental health services, by the family, or any care workers (family social worker, GP, teacher, child care provider, etc) to get the kid assessed and support put in place.

What do you have to do over there?
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Well, it's not like we have 'Dial-A-Shrink' over here.

Plus, he'd have to agree to treatment, that pesky freedom and all.

Social stigma says never admit you need help, or else folks will say you're crazy.

Then you'll never get over that label.

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You do not have involuntary treatment orders?

I was in work till 1.30 am on Monday last week, getting a girl admitted against her wishes.
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If the family are not sophisticated about mental illness they will mis-identify the problem as something else, a behavior problem, a lack of discipline, or very often religious whacks say it is due to 'demonic possession' listening to 'satanic music' &c.

The mother was working so you cannot call her 'lazy' and even someone who knew a lot about mental illness might not have suspected something of this severity in a 14-year old. Intervention may not have changed anything either. The story is shocking because it is rare. Rare illnesses are often misdiagnosed, even by experts.

"Blame the bad parents and turn our brains off" is no response.

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Gob wrote:You do not have involuntary treatment orders?

I was in work till 1.30 am on Monday last week, getting a girl admitted against her wishes.
It's very difficult for an adult. Easier for a child.

For an adult, the evidence required to prove that they are a danger to themselves or others is that they have already hurt someone. Usually physically attacked them. Even someone who is suicidal, has the means, has tried to use them, was still threatening suicide when the police physically restrained and arrested them, will generally be 'voluntarily admitted' which means they have to be released the minute they ask.

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Anywho......none of us here or there will really know.

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Well we could try and get you institutionalized. :D
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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It now looks like it was the mother that was responsible for the suicide notes and potentail death of her family. It appears she was trying to shift the blame to her son that she slaughtered.
THE handwriting on the "am sorry" note found in the charred remains of a Staten Island murder-suicide appears to match that of the dead mother - not the teen pyromaniac believed to be responsible for the fire and slaughter of his entire family.

The devastated dad, who had not seen his son in almost seven years, said a close friend of Jones called him after the tragedy to say she had earlier said that "she was going to kill the youths and burn the house down" .

Mr Raymond said he broke it off with Jones because of her anger issues and flashes of violence.

"(Jones) had pulled a knife on a relative," Mr Raymond said.

But Jones' close friend, Shaquawna Meaders, said she was "a great (mum)".


Read more: http://www.news.com.au/world/sorry-note ... z0uktvDibz
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Well, you see...

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For an adult, the evidence required to prove that they are a danger to themselves or others is that they have already hurt someone. Usually physically attacked them. Even someone who is suicidal, has the means, has tried to use them, was still threatening suicide when the police physically restrained and arrested them, will generally be 'voluntarily admitted' which means they have to be released the minute they ask.

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Not quite....

In CA - a 5150 hold which is for 72 hours and only upon the approval of a psychiatrist may the person be released.

A 5151 hold is up to 14 days and the same stipulation applies.

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