Good Shooting

[liberty]

The thug that survived should get life in prison for felony murder.


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FIGHTING BACK
Woman 2, thugs 0 after home invasion
Oklahoma break-in turns deadly when 'victim' pulls gun and fires

Posted: July 24, 2010
11:00 pm Eastern

By Bob Unruh
© 2010 WorldNetDaily

Entertainment center smashed while intruders were attacking Okahoma woman (Photo by Steven Conrad of Conrad Images)

One gun isn't enough.
That was what Linda Smith (a pseudonym) was thinking after two thugs broke into her Oklahoma apartment. One was holding a weapon (she initially thought it was a knife but it turned out to be a screwdriver) at her throat, and the other was pacing back and forth while holding her purse and demanding her money and valuables. She screamed, and was told if she screamed again, she'd be dead.
She was doing as police recommend in robberies – comply with a robber's demands. But her Lady Smith & Wesson .38 special, which she carries by permit, was hidden in her purse – and the purse was being held by one of the attackers.
Then the situation, suddenly, got much, much worse: One of the robbers demanded that she take off her clothes.
"Come on, what are you waiting for," he told her as he started to yank on her sweatpants, trying to take them off.
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Smith pleaded for her safety and distracted the attackers by telling them she would get her money, which was "in my purse."
The robbers inexplicably allowed her to drop to her knees and crawl across the floor to her purse, which the second attacker had dropped.
(Story continues below)


She reached inside, and the first shot was clear of the muzzle and into the torso of one of the attackers before she even pulled the weapon clear of the purse. Four more shots followed shortly and, in the end, one of the attackers was dead and the second was hospitalized facing a murder rap for having participated in a felony in which someone died.
Smith, in an exclusive interview with WND, explained she comes from a family that believes in self-reliance and courage.
"I choose to carry a concealed firearm, because even though I am immensely grateful for the protection from our police departments, I realize they're not God, so they can't be everywhere at once.
"Deadly situations can happen in the blink of an eye," she said. "If you are not proactive … you are a vulnerable target."
Smith, an Endowment member of the National Rifle Association, said she's carried a gun for almost half a decade, but never dreamed she'd be in a situation where she'd have to use it to defend her life. But she's glad the training she's had over the years kicked in at a time when it saved her from injury, or possibly much worse.
"Ironically, I thought I was really prepared," she told WND. "I remember that night and saw my life flash before my eyes. Darreon Carter, the man who was attempting to rape me, had me pinned down to my couch, with a knife at my throat. I knew I didn't have access to my gun. I thought to myself, I really need to have a firearm for my home, and directly on my person."

Mess left by two attackers shot when they invaded Oklahoma woman's apartment and she shot them. One died. (Photo by Steven Conrad of Conrad Images)

Rachel Parsons, an official for the NRA, said, while Smith's case is among the more dramatic, there are similar scenarios that have been reported. But even more, there are many crimes that simply are not carried out because of the possibility that a "victim" is fully armed, she said.
"We see every day in newspapers across this country times when law-abiding people are able to protect themselves because they have concealed-carry permits," she said.
"Numerous studies [show] having a concealed-carry permit, having a firearm and the ability to use one, has thwarted crime without the firearm ever having been fired," she said.
"The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."
All the gun laws, regulations, rules, restrictions, plans and advisories in the world are not going to change the fact that criminals have guns, she pointed out.
"By definition, criminals break the law. All of these regulations do absolutely nothing [to stop] criminals," she said.
Jason Willingham, a public-information officer with the Tulsa Police Department, told WND that officers encourage people to cooperate with robbers if they find themselves in the situation of losing a wallet or cash.
"However, if it's a situation where a rape is going to take place, or a kidnapping, we definitely encourage people to fight," he said. "You do not want to go willing. Scream. Make people wonder what's going on."
"Obviously, in this situation she did exactly … the right thing," he said.
While the prosecutor had not yet made a formal decision regarding her case, Willingham told WND that Oklahoma not only has a "make my day" law allowing residents to use deadly force inside their homes, but also a "stand your ground" law allowing force to be used against an attack outside the home.
He said the surviving attacker probably will face a murder charge under a state law allowing that charge when a person embarks on a felony and someone dies.
He said the two perpetrators are "well-known" to the Tulsa police "for criminal activities."
He said he had reviewed the 911 tapes made of Smith's call to police after the shooting.

"It's amazing. She's calm and collected. You always wonder what would happen in such a situation," he said.
According to records, the attack happened early on the morning of July 15, and one of the intruders, Darreon Carter, 18, died hours later in a hospital in Tulsa. The other, Daniel Holman, 23, was facing charges while still in critical condition.
Capt. Travis Yates of the Tulsa Police Department told the Tulsa newspaper it seemed to be an "opportunity crime."
"Somebody saw a woman walking up to an apartment, and they decided to commit a crime, and here we are," he said.
The attack developed only about 24 hours after another home invasion was reported in the area – and that one left a resident dead. Willingham, however, told WND it was unrelated to the Smith ordeal.
On the Tulsa World forum page, Smith came in for virtually unchallenged praise:
"The scumbags got what they deserved and I hope it is a lesson for the rest of them out there."

"God bless this shooter."

"Pay attention to this one. This is what is going to have to start happening to let all these no good punks [know] that you won't stand for it and are taking your freedom back. … You come to take whats [sic] mine 'I will shoot you.'"

"KEEP SHOOTING!!!"

"Buy a gun. Learn how to use it. Kill intruders. Any questions?"

"A perfect example of why we need the concealed carry! this is my kind of woman! fight crime! shoot back!"

"Lock and load people, it's a different world out there."

"I love the great equalizer."

"This story makes me feel all warm and fuzzy."
Smith told WND she had come into her apartment after a late-night run for errands – she keeps unusual hours because of shift work at a hospital. She had one more item to fetch from outside but never got the chance because, within 20 seconds of her entering, the suspects followed.
She recalled with clarity the five shots, including those in which she picked out the attackers even though her boyfriend, black like the attackers, was struggling with them. He had been visiting and came in from the next room after the shots rang out.
He reported to Smith later that one of the attackers actually had a headlock on him when she fired, knocking the assailant off of him.
He had jumped into Smith's defense as both attackers were beating Smith's face and head, trying to knock her out to break her "death grip" on the weapon.
"We need to stand up and we don't have to be victims," Smith told WND. "We don't have to passively stand by and allow criminals to overtake us."

[Lord Jim]

I think you're in the wrong forum room, Lib...

[Gob]

World Nut Daily, your source for the best right wing fairy tales...

[Daisy]

Anyone mind if I chuck this thread into General stuff & Tabloids?

[Gob]

Nope

[@meric@nwom@n]

Anyone ever regret that trail of breadcrumbs?

[Lord Jim]

Anyone mind if I chuck this thread into General stuff & Tabloids?

That would seem to be the thing to do...

[liberty]

Anyone ever regret that trail of breadcrumbs?

Is there something wrong with shooting home invaders? Is there some reason to believer that this was not a case of home invasion?

[liberty]

The thug that survived should get life in prison for felony murder. Of course this won’t happen, I believe maximum penalty is for felony murder is twenty years.

Do you agree with the concept of felony murder? Is there anyone here that believes it is unfair to hold the accused responsible death of a person that died during the commission of a felony crime?

[Lord Jim]

World Nut Daily, your source for the best right wing fairy tales...

Strop, the local Tulsa Oklahoma newspaper also has the story:

http://www.tulsaworld.com/webextra/cont ... Matt123176

This isn't something that WND made up.

[Crackpot]

It's not so much that the WND makes things up outright it's that you can't really trust it to give a balanced or even accurate view on any story.

It doesn't take much to see the difference in reporting in the two stories.

In essence it's like asking Steve to read a story and then tell you what it's about.

[dales]

happiness is a warm gun......



S&W 500 MAGNUM

[liberty]

It just happened to be the first site I came to, I didn’t realize that it world net daily, but it does not matters. I willing to read or listen to anyone. I still watch CBS news after they lied to me about GWB’s national guard record.

I was confirming the story I had heard on Neal Boortze radio show. I had switched from NPR to KMLB because NPR had nothing interesting, so it is NPR's fault.

[Gob]

The local rag, without the histrionics, makes for better reading.

Travis Bickle: Listen, you fuckers, you screwheads. Here is a woman who would not take it anymore. A man who stood up against the scum, the cunts, the dogs, the filth, the shit. Here is a woman who stood up.

[Lord Jim]

In essence it's like asking Steve to read a story and then tell you what it's about.

Man, now that's cold...

Look, I'd be the last person in the world to deny that World Net Daily has an agenda, and tends to color it's coverage accordingly...

As do many other sources, on both sides of the political divide, especially in the "new media"...

That's why, as a basic rule of thumb, when I see that some "news" organization that clearly has an ideological slant, seizes on some local story to make a point, (be it something like World News Daily, or The Drudge Report, or Fox News on the right...or something like Media Matters, or The Huffington Post, or MSNBC on the left...) that the prudent thing to do ist to do what I did in this case; and check out some of the "old media" local news sources....

In this particular case, it seems to me that laying the hype and editorializing of the WND report aside...the gist of the story appears to be accurate...

This woman was in fact able to prevent herself from being raped, brutalized, and possibly killed because she had access to a firearm.

That central fact does not appear to be in dispute.

[dales]

Travis Bickle: Listen, you fuckers, you screwheads. Here is a woman who would not take it anymore. A woman who stood up against the scum, the cunts, the dogs, the filth, the shit.

[Crackpot]

Man, now that's cold...

but accurate.

[loCAtek]

~Steve reads? I thought he just cut & a pasted articles in purple from Democracy Now and asked Editec to tell him what to say.

[rubato]

Posting the occasional story about someone using a gun in self defense to prove that leaving loaded guns around is a good idea is about as persuasive as posting a video of 'car surfing' to prove that is a good idea.

yrs,
rubato

[dales]

Car surfing with a loaded gun is even more of a cheap thrill.