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Two shots in the head, 27 stab wounds, and a slit throat...
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:38 am
by Lord Jim
Would seem to make the self-defense argument rather weak....
Arizona boyfriend killing: Jodi Arias' murder trial still focused on sex
PHOENIX -- Jodi Arias acknowledged Wednesday during her Arizona murder trial that she enjoyed, even instigated, raunchy sex acts with the victim contrary to previous testimony that he coerced her to perform them, at times making her feel like a prostitute.
Under aggressive questioning by prosecutor Juan Martinez, Arias said she was blossoming sexually and the couple's antics were helping her grow.
Martinez has been working to poke holes in her stories and has noted the duplicity of her portrayal of Travis Alexander, trying to show jurors she is lying, as he works for a first-degree murder conviction and the death penalty.
Arias has said throughout the trial that Alexander coerced her into performing raunchy sex acts, while phone recordings played for jurors and text messages shown in court seem to indicate that she enjoyed participating.
"So when you tell us you felt like a prostitute it seems to be contradictory?" Martinez noted.
Arias said he is misunderstanding the context of the text messages and calls, during which one segment played for jurors has Arias telling Alexander, "You are amazing. Seriously, you made me feel like a goddess."
Martinez noted the call, which Arias recorded, came shortly after one of the encounters Arias claimed made her feel like Alexander was using her for sex.
"You were actually into it as much as he was, right?" Martinez asked.
"Yes," Arias said.
Martinez then read for jurors salacious text messages between Arias and Alexander, one of which has Arias describing how she wanted to be treated "like a dirty little schoolgirl."
She previously testified that was just one of Alexander's "deviant" sexual fantasies that made her uncomfortable.
"You did enjoy dressing up though, right?" Martinez asked.
"Um, yes," Arias replied.
"It was a consensual mutual relationship sexually speaking, wasn't it?" Martinez prodded.
"Yes, always," Arias said.
"No indication that you were offended?" the prosecutor continued.
"Correct," Arias replied.
Martinez also questioned Arias over her repeated lies to authorities, friends and family in the days after she killed Alexander. She first claimed to know nothing about the killing, then later blamed it on intruders, providing descriptions of the attack by two masked people in several media interviews. She eventually settled on self-defense. She was too ashamed and frightened of the consequences to be truthful, she told jurors.
Martinez noted that even her lies were changing as she spoke to various media organizations.
"I couldn't keep my stories straight," Arias said.
The prosecutor also noted how Arias has alternately described Alexander as a cheating womanizer, an angry man with a violent temper who once choked her into unconsciousness, while simultaneously a caring, loving boyfriend.
Arias is charged in the June 2008 death of Alexander in his suburban Phoenix home. She says she dated him for about five months before breaking up but continued to see him for sex up until the day she killed him. She was forced to fight for her life after Alexander attacked her, she said, but police say she planned the killing in a jealous rage.
Arias has said Alexander invited her to his Mesa home on the day of the killing for sex. His body was found about five days later. He had been shot in the head, suffered 27 stab and slash wounds and his throat was slit.
Of the day of Alexander's death, Arias says he was in a rage, body-slamming her and chasing her around his home.
She said she grabbed a gun from his closet, and fired it as they tussled, but doesn't recall stabbing him. She said she remembers putting a knife in the dishwasher and disposing of the gun in the desert as she drove from Arizona to see a man in Utah, where she spent the night in his bed as she worked to create an alibi and avoid suspicion. She even attended Alexander's memorial service about 10 days later.
Arias' grandparents reported a .25 caliber handgun stolen from their Northern California house about a week before the killing -- the same caliber used to shoot Alexander -- but Arias says she knows nothing about the burglary and brought no weapons to his home.
http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world ... rial-still


Re: Two shots in the head, 27 stab wounds, and a slit throat
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:04 pm
by Joe Guy
I've been following this trial on tv. She was on the stand for the entire month of February. Although I haven't watched every day, I've seen highlights of most of the testimony.
Two things I've seen a lot of in this trial. The prosecuting attorney seems to be yelling at her all of the time and he has spent day after day talking in detail about sex acts to the point that I wonder what he's trying to accomplish.
Every commentator on the show - all attorneys - talk as though she is obviously guilty and say what a great job Juan Martinez (prosecutor) is doing.
From what I've seen I think that a juror I might not like Martinez's method and it might cause one to be more sympathetic to the defendant.
She's not saying she didn't kill him. She's saying it was self defense. Although slashing a man's throat and slicing him 27 times and shooting him in the head seems to be a bit of overkill

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I didn't see the opening statements so my opinion is based solely on testimony that I've watched. So far, in my opinion, the prosecution has spent far too much time on their sex lives. Although I know he is trying to make it look like she enjoyed having sex with him and he wasn't a batterer, I don't see were us knowing all of the details is going to convince us she is a murderer.
LJ. SHE LOOKS GUILTY TO ME
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:14 pm
by RayThom
Guilty of looking like a fine, foxy lady.
I'm going with the "Whoopi Goldberg" defense on this: "You weren't there, how would you know... where's the video?" I rest my case.
Re: Two shots in the head, 27 stab wounds, and a slit throat
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:55 pm
by Lord Jim
Before the prosecutor got started, her attorney kept her on the stand for nine days...(which is very unusual in a case like this)...
What I have seen from most of the commentators indicates that they believe the strategy is that the evidence against her is so overwhelming, and she is so poor a witness, (she's even perjured herself while on the stand in the trial.) that her defense team is basically just trying to save her from the death penalty by trying to get at least one juror to see her as such a wing nut that she doesn't deserve execution.
They're not going for an insanity defense per se, but they're trying to show her as so unable to distinguish fact from fantasy that they are hoping to get someone on the jury to feel that she should be spared the death penalty.
From the clips I've seen her behavior on the stand has been very strange...
She seems to smirk very inappropriately, (though all of a sudden for the first time in the trial at the end of last week, she started crying; as though she had been told this was something she ought to do.) and I also think that the defense may have gone too far in changing her appearance; yes, you always want your client (especially a woman in a case as lurid as this one) to look more conservative and reserved for court, but they went so far with the "librarian look" it could turn off jurors by looking like a really cynical ploy....(The jury has seen plenty of photos of how she appeared prior to this)
I think what the prosecutor is trying to do is to provoke her into showing a flash of a cold calculating side that would mitigate against this impression...
Of course if that doesn't succeed, and people on the jury start feeling sorry for her because he's so haranguing, that strategy backfires...
The self defense argument took another blow at the end of last week when the prosecution introduced photos, (that she admits she took) of the guy in the shower that are time stamped two minutes before he was shot....
Re: Two shots in the head, 27 stab wounds, and a slit throat
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:59 pm
by dales
Here's a tid bit even more lurid and depraved:
Posted: 03/03/2013 02:51:58 AM PST
March 3, 2013 10:53 AM GMTUpdated: 03/03/2013 02:51:59 AM PST
Leonard Cohen never gets old.
I mean that both literally and figuratively. As far as the latter goes, I'd already seen Cohen five times in recent years. Yet, I still was counting down the days until I could see him again on Saturday at the Paramount Theatre, during the first half of a two-night stand at the beautiful downtown Oakland venue.
The result was the same as ever: It was an incredible pleasure to witness Cohen sing such musical masterpieces as "Tower of Song," "Bird on the Wire" and "Dance Me to the End of Love." His performance was every bit as strong as the one seen by fans (including me) back in November at the HP Pavilion in San Jose.
The added bonus, of course, was that this performance wasn't at a hockey arena. No knock on the Pavilion, which is a fine place to see shows, but Cohen's greatness is certainly magnified in an intimate theater setting.
His songbook -- which truly ranks as one of the finest in popular music history -- is downright timeless. Yet, the singer himself is proving to be just as ageless a wonder.
Sure, technically speaking, this Canadian legend is 78-years old. Yet, he sure didn't act like a man approaching 80 as he poured his heart, soul and remarkable energy into his generous set. He took the stage right after 8 p.m. and was still there as the clock ticked past 11:30 p.m.
As the concert drew to a close, with such significant offerings as "I'm Your Man," "So Long, Marianne" and "First
We Take Manhattan," Cohen was still going strong, working the stage with passion and delivering his words with gusto. Bruce Springsteen could take a listen from this guy.
I can hardly wait for my next dance with Cohen.
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http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/category/concerts.
LJ. NO MATTER HOW STRONG THE EVIDENCE...
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:38 pm
by RayThom
... this trial is in the hands of the jury -- good, bad, or indifferent. The Casey Anthony trial comes to mind. However, as liberal as the citizens of California seem to be I feel they are, in fact, fairly conservative when sitting on a panel.
I haven't followed this trial, but given your profile, I feel she'll be found guilty, but get no where near the maximum at sentencing.
Re: Two shots in the head, 27 stab wounds, and a slit throat
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:57 pm
by Joe Guy
Lord Jim wrote:From the clips I've seen her behavior on the stand has been very strange...
She seems to smirk very inappropriately, (though all of a sudden for the first time in the trial at the end of last week, she started crying; as though she had been told this was something she ought to do.) and I also think that the defense may have gone too far in changing her appearance; yes, you always want your client (especially a woman in a case as lurid as this one) to look more conservative and reserved for court, but they went so far with the "librarian look" it could turn off jurors by looking like a really cynical ploy....(The jury has seen plenty of photos of how she appeared prior to this)
You are echoing what the commentators/lawyers on "truTV" have been saying. They point out certain facial expressions, smiles at seemingly inappropriate times and some say she is acting when she is crying.
But that's coming from people who have made up their minds about her guilt and have been watching video clips over & over that focus on certain moments of the trial.
The jurors don't see nearly as much as what the commentators are seeing. I would think that at least one juror would dislike Mr Martinez's method of cross examination. Someone might overlook or completely miss some of her quirks and attribute her responses to nervousness and a reaction to what he/she perceives as the defendant being harassed by him.
I've been watching this trial with an open mind. Although it looks as though she may have actually planned this murder, my unbiased view is that I haven't been convinced that she did.
One might believe that all of her conflicting statements about what happened are not so unusual given the seriousness of the murder charge. Putting myself in her place, if I had killed someone in self defense with no witnesses I might be worried that the authorities might not believe me and in my confusion I might come up with some unbelievable and not very well thought out stories.
Then again, I believe she might just be a cold blooded murderous conniving bitch.
I'm not sure yet.
Re: Two shots in the head, 27 stab wounds, and a slit throat
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:07 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
Puts a new meaning to "Girls Gone Wild".
someone had to 
Re: Two shots in the head, 27 stab wounds, and a slit throat
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:26 pm
by Rick
Chick is a total Sociopath, she'll prolly get off...
Re: Two shots in the head, 27 stab wounds, and a slit throat
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 7:40 pm
by Lord Jim
Just when you thought this case couldn't get any weirder:
Character witness for Jodi Arias pulls out, citing threats and inner turmoil
By Diana Alvear and Erin McClam, NBC News
A woman who planned to testify as a character witness for Jodi Arias in a bid to spare her life decided Monday that she couldn’t go through with it, saying she had received death threats and was deeply conflicted about the case.
Lawyers for Arias, who was convicted earlier this month of the frenzied murder of an ex-lover, quickly asked for a mistrial in the sentencing phase on the grounds that a witness had been intimidated. The judge denied the request.
The potential witness, Patricia Womack, is a childhood friend of Arias who planned to testify about Arias’ abusive childhood. Besides the threats, she said that her heart went out to the family of Travis Alexander, whom Arias was convicted of killing.
“I couldn’t do it,” she told NBC News in an email. “I feel there is so much good in Jodi to be saved but then also someone’s dear life was taken.”
Court abruptly adjourned for the day after lawyers for Arias said they had no witnesses to call. It remained possible that jurors in the sentencing phase would hear from Arias herself, perhaps Tuesday.
Karen DeSoto, a defense lawyer and legal analyst for MSNBC, said there were ways of overcoming Womack’s feelings of intimidation.
“If she really is scared, then turn the cameras off,” she said. “There’s a lot of ways to cure whether somebody can testify. Clear the courtroom.”
After the judge, Sherry Stephens of Maricopa County Superior Court, denied the mistrial request, lawyers for Arias asked to be taken off the case. The judge denied that request as well.
Arias, 32, was found guilty May 8 of first-degree murder. She admitted to killing Alexander after a day of sex. She shot him in the face, stabbed him more than 20 times and slit his throat ear to ear. At trial, she claimed self-defense.
Jurors, after hearing tearful statements from Alexander’s brother and sister, ruled that Arias had been “especially cruel,” a finding that made her eligible for the death penalty under Arizona law. The same jury is considering whether to sentence her to death.
Arias was briefly put on suicide watch after the conviction. Hours after the verdict, she told an Arizona TV station that she would rather get death than life and that death was the “ultimate freedom.”
Sheriff’s officials said Monday that Arias had been returned to the regular population at the county women’s jail after spending five days on suicide watch in a psychiatric ward, The Arizona Republic reported.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05 ... rmoil?lite
At first I thought she probably wouldn't get the death penalty, then after her conduct on the stand I thought it was a toss up....
Now, given the decisions the jury has made, it looks to me like she probably will get the DP....
She certainly deserves it....
Re: Two shots in the head, 27 stab wounds, and a slit throat
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 7:52 pm
by Joe Guy
I have no doubt that she will get the DP.
She's a cold-blooded slasher murderess.
Re: Two shots in the head, 27 stab wounds, and a slit throat
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 8:22 pm
by dales
DROWN THE WITCH!
(is there enuff water in AZ?)
Re: Two shots in the head, 27 stab wounds, and a slit throat
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 8:38 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
Kudos dales. Two posts of brilliance amongst so much dross

Re: Two shots in the head, 27 stab wounds, and a slit throat
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 12:56 am
by Jarlaxle
Give her a bottle of sleeping pills, a fifth of vodka, and detailed instructions on doing it right.
Re: Two shots in the head, 27 stab wounds, and a slit throat
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 1:18 pm
by rubato
Add poisoning and drowning and you'd have something there:

OR MAYBE HIS 'EVIL' TWIN...
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:03 pm
by RayThom
... J.C. Rasputin. I'm pretty sure it's the sinister, and scraggly looking quality of the beard that makes them both look evil.

Re: Two shots in the head, 27 stab wounds, and a slit throat
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:48 pm
by dales
I'LL SEE YOUR JESUS AND RASPUTIN AND RAISE YOU ONE DARWIN AND ONE CHARLIE

Re: Two shots in the head, 27 stab wounds, and a slit throat
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:52 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
where she spent the night in his bed as she worked to create an alibi
I wonder what work she was doing?
Meade
oh and three-fer, dales

Re: Two shots in the head, 27 stab wounds, and a slit throat
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 10:45 pm
by Lord Jim
Well, the penalty phase has now gone to the jury....
I didn't watch a lot of this trial, (frankly I was afraid that if I turned it on, I might get drawn into it and not get much work done...I did watch some of the part when Arais was taking questions submitted by the jury; that's what convinced me that they definitely were not buying the self defense argument...) but I watched some portions of it today...
I thought Arias' presentation was horrible and befitting this trial very strange....And that her defense lawyer's plea to save her life was even worse...
Arias essentially said they should spare her life for her parent's sake....
The parents who were thrown under the bus during the trial, (and again today by the defense attorney) and who didn't take the stand to plea for the sparing of their daughter's life....
Then, (and this may have been the most bizarre thing of all) in order to counter the argument that all of Arias' personal relationships had been based on lies, the defense lawyer actually cited her relationship with the guy she killed to try to disprove this....
(It was almost as though the defense was deliberately trying to give Arias grounds for appeal based on their own incompetence if the jury votes for the DP)
But here's something else I noticed... (and Joe, since you watched a lot more of this trial than I did, maybe you can tell me if this was a common occurrence)
When the court was in session (but the jury hadn't been brought back into the room) immediately prior to Arias' defense lawyer making her argument, Arias was sitting at the defense table without her glasses....
She read stuff on her computer monitor without her glasses....
She then wrote out notes on a note pad without her glasses....
Then it was announced the jury was returning, and immediately the glasses went on...(Earlier, when she was talking to the jury, she was consulting notes with the glasses on...so apparently she reads equally well with them or without them)
Which makes me wonder if she actually even needs the glasses, or if they weren't just a prop to make her look more "plain" to the jury....
Re: Two shots in the head, 27 stab wounds, and a slit throat
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:06 pm
by Lord Jim
My understanding is that one of the cardinal rules in the penalty phase of a DP case, is that you
do not attempt to re-argue the defense that was already rejected by the jury when you were convicted....
Which is another thing that Arias did, trying again to portray herself as a victim of domestic violence....(At one point she pulls out a tee shirt to show the jury that read "Survivor"...

)
It was also as though there was absolutely no co-ordination between Arias and her legal team in terms of how to approach this....(Which may very well have been the case, since the lawyers tried three times...the last time just yesterday...to get the judge to remove them from her defense...)