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Police State America

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:58 pm
by Gob

Re: Police State America

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:09 am
by Crackpot
You want me to take something that bill mahr (or however you spell it) seriously?

Re: Police State America

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:38 pm
by Rick
That finger just came out his butt...

Re: Police State America

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:22 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
I thought it was his head that just came out of his butt.
:shrug

Re: Police State America

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:42 pm
by Gob
Crackpot wrote:You want me to take something that bill mahr (or however you spell it) seriously?
I thought the points raised by the show were worthy of hearing.

Re: Police State America

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:48 pm
by Lord Jim
Well, at least we're not tossing people in the clink for calling somebody a "sheep shagger" or a "fat ugly Australian"...

:P

Re: Police State America

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:55 pm
by Gob
Nah, you'd shoot'em instead....

Re: Police State America

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:06 pm
by Gob
GERMAN POLICE fired just 85 bullets in the course of duty across the whole of 2011, according to astonishing figures reported in the newspaper Der Spiegel.

Of those rounds used, 49 were not even discharged at a suspect, being fired as warning shots. Of the remaining 36, 15 resulted in injuries and six led to fatalities.

British police come out of the comparison well. Last year only two people were shot dead by police in England and Wales, while the country's largest force, the Metropolitan Police, fired just six shots in the 2009-10 figures

However, the figures for American police paint an altogether bleaker picture. While there are no nationwide figures compiled for firearms usage across the various police forces in the US, individual reports show single incidents when more bullets were fired than in the entire German year.

Russia Today (rather gleefully) reports how in Los Angeles in April 2012 LAPD officers unloaded more than 90 shots in an incident that led to the death of a 19-year-old man, and in the same month New York police fired at a suspected murderer 84 times.



Read more: http://www.theweek.co.uk/crime/46907/us ... z2Rz0DztWm

Re: Police State America

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:01 pm
by Lord Jim
Maher is talking completely out his ass on this one.

Just one example:

"In Britain, the police don't even carry guns"...

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It's totally absurd to define a "police state" based on the firepower available to the police...

Whether or not a society is a "police state" is based on the mission and laws governing the use of police power, not the mere weaponry the police are equipped with.

Re: Police State America

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:17 pm
by Crackpot
What do you mean "on this one".

The guy is rubato with slightly more charm

Re: Police State America

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:57 pm
by Gob
Be hard to have less.

ETA;
In the year 2007–08, there were 6,780 Authorised Firearms Officers, 21,181 police operations in which firearms were authorised throughout England and Wales and 7 incidents where conventional firearms were used

Re: Police State America

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 1:57 am
by Econoline
Crackpot wrote:You want me to take something that bill mahr (or however you spell it) seriously?
I didn't even finish watching the clip. Once someone has made it clear that he can't tell a Humvee from a "half-track" it's pretty hard to listen to anything that follows.
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ETA: ^Humvee^............................................^Half-track^
(shown in the video; called "half-tracks" by Maher).....(NOT shown in the video)


(edited for clarity)

Re: Police State America

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 2:21 am
by Lord Jim
Econo, I believe that some of the pictures were also actually National Guard rather than Boston PD.

Re: Police State America

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 2:26 am
by Lord Jim
I thought the points raised by the show were worthy of hearing.
BTW Strop, Steve just called....

He said I should tell you: :ok :clap: :ok




:D

Re: Police State America

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 3:03 am
by Gob
:fu

Re: Police State America

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 3:57 am
by Joe Guy
If that video of cops shooting at the kid in the boat is real, why is he still alive?

Can't they shoot straight?

More importantly, why did they need to fire at him?

Especially when they wanted him alive?

Did I miss something? (Like those sharpshooting cops apparently did?)

Re: Police State America

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 4:41 am
by dales
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Re: Police State America

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 1:29 pm
by rubato
Crackpot wrote:What do you mean "on this one".

The guy is rubato with slightly more charm

So you are asserting that gratuitous insults are ok now? (this is far from the first time. You have become a serial reflexive shit-bomber like others.).



yrs,
rubato

Re: Police State America

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 1:33 pm
by rubato
Mahr does make a good point. None of that military gear had anything to do with catching the suspects or making anyone actually safer. So why is it there? Do we really have small armies of terrorists attacking us here and there across America?

Is it just there to make a show of force for the gullible to think its helpful?


yrs,
rubato

Re: Police State America

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 3:56 pm
by Crackpot
Cw Cwy Cwy I at least name names instesd of the 0passive agressive shit you post.

BTW you never spoke up all the times I've made unfavorable comoparisons to dgs.