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Health experts are holding an emergency international meeting to devise ways of combating a mysterious virus that has been described as the world’s single biggest threat to public health.

Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (Mers) has already claimed 38 lives, mostly in Saudi Arabia, and bears striking similarities to Sars, which killed around 800 people in 2003.

Amid fears of a global pandemic, 80 officials and doctors, including two from Britain, gathered in Cairo Thursday.

The three-day meeting called by the World Health Organization will look at developing guidelines for the annual Muslim pilgrimages to Saudi Arabia, where four new deaths were announced on Monday.

he virus appears to have a 12-day incubation period, meaning that pilgrims could return to their home countries without realising they have caught it.

Three cases have been recorded in Britain, with others in France, Germany, Italy, Tunisia and Jordan.

Scientists remain baffled about the source of the virus, which was first reported in April last year. The symptoms are similar to Sars, with an initial fever and cough that develops into pneumonia. It has a fatality rate of 60%.

Dr. Jon Bible, a clinical scientist who treated one of the British patients last year, said: “You don’t want to have this.”

Sufferers “are very close to death at all times. They are in respiratory distress at all times, it’s like a very serious pneumonia,” he added.

His patient at St Thomas’ Hospital in London survived after several months of artificial respiration and still has breathing difficulties.
How about this for a fucking WHO "guideline" for pilgrimages to Mecca - do your fucking job and issue an advisory against travelling to Saudi Arabia until this epidemic is under control. Don't make the same mistake as you did with SARS, being hesitant to "single out" China for a travel advisory, and then finally doing so only in combination with an advisory against travel to Toronto when the epidemic here had already been contained to institutions and was no longer a threat to the general public, destroying our tourist economy in the name of not offending the fucking Chinese.

There is nothing obligating Muslims to make a pilgrimage this year instead of next. There is nothing wrong with saying so.
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The WHO didn't fuck things with SARs that was the government of China who did their usual and tried to lie and cover it up, for weeks.

But thanks to that nice Joseph DeRisi (UCSC graduate) we identified the SARs virus very quickly as a corona virus.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_DeRisi
"DeRisi's best-known achievements are his work on profiling gene expression throughout the lifecycle of the malaria-causing protozoan Plasmodium falciparum[1] and his analysis of the SARS virus.[2] ."
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/07/healt ... .html?_r=0

Q. AND YOU DID BUILD IT. WHAT DOES YOUR VIROCHIP LOOK LIKE?

A. It’s a glass slide onto which we’ve printed little DNA fragments of every virus ever discovered — about 22,000 different viral sequences. I designed the robot that made the chip. I then built that robot and wrote all the software to automate it. I’ve always been a serious computer nerd, as well as a biologist. Now is really the right moment for a scientist with that combination of interests. The way the chip works is this: If we are looking at a virus and trying to figure out what it is, we take some DNA and some RNA from a patient and we tag it with a fluorescent dye. Then we put that material onto the virus chip. Because matching genetic sequences stick to each other — the double helix — if there’s a match between what’s on the chip and our biological sample, a particular spot on the chip will glow. That tells us which virus the sample is. And, thanks to computers, we can do this with thousands of viruses at one time.

Q. CAN YOUR CHIP FIND UNDISCOVERED

viruses?

A. It can. The ability to do it relies on evolution. It turns out that viruses evolve from each other, like everything else. So if you look at the evolutionary tree of viruses, you can find parts of their genome that haven’t changed over evolutionary time. You can recognize what may be a new virus by identifying this little piece of their genome that hasn’t changed and is represented on the chip.

Q. IS THAT WHAT YOU DID IN 2003 WITH SARS?

A. Yeah. We had just finished building the full version of our ViroChip, when we read about SARS in the newspapers. We literarily begged the C.D.C. to send us samples of the virus. Once we had it, we immediately put it onto a chip. In less than 24 hours we confirmed that this was a novel coronavirus. We confirmed the ViroChip’s finding by subsequently sequencing this virus’s genome. This had never in history happened before. It was unthinkable five years earlier.

From now on, I don’t think there is going to be any new viral epidemic that we will not be able to identify within a few days. It doesn’t mean you’ll find a cure right away. But you will be able to separate people who have it from those who don’t. You can stop it from spreading, if you have a diagnostic. That’s what got SARS under control.

Q. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR CHIP HAS BEEN HELPFUL IN DIAGNOSING SOME AVIAN VIRUSES. IS THAT TRUE?

A. After SARS, we got calls from veterinarians in Israel and Florida who told us that parrots, macaws and cockatiels were dying from this wasting disease, which they suspected was viral. Once we got tissue samples, the ViroChip quickly picked up that this was a bornavirus, something seen in livestock, but that hadn’t been identified in birds before.

As with SARS, once we had a diagnostic tool, you could separate the sick birds from the healthy ones. You might not be able to save an infected bird, but you can certainly stop the epidemic from going any further.

Q. ARE YOU USING THE SAME TECHNOLOGY TO STUDY MALARIA?

A. Yes, we use DNA microarrays that are similar to the virus chips. Malaria is a one-cell parasite; it’s not a virus. We built a chip that represents that organism’s genome — 6,000 genes. And we grew large amounts of the parasite in vats of human blood. We were then able to use the chip to understand what genetic program these parasites run at the moment they infect human blood cells. This is important because all the clinical symptoms of malaria occur when the parasite infects a person’s blood cells. This knowledge will assist drug and vaccine development.

Before we did this, it was anyone’s guess which of the 6,000 genes were important. Now this data has gone to every malaria lab in the world, and they are picking specific genes to work on, many times based on our data. That’s just amazing!

Q. HAVE YOU PATENTED YOUR VIROCHIP?

A. My colleagues and I considered it. But in the end, we saw no value in doing that. We want people to use this technology. By disseminating the technology freely, more researchers can utilize it faster. And that can produce more rapid advances in human health. We put the specifications into the public domain.

Q. YOU’VE JUST WON THE HEINZ AWARD. WHAT DO YOU PLAN TO DO WITH THE $250,000 PRIZE MONEY?

A. I intend to use a percentage for special research projects on infectious disease, and I’ll give a percentage to field operations working against malaria. After that, I’ll pay my two young daughters’ day care bills and also set up college funds for them.

I did my undergraduate work at the University of California when it was still affordable. But tuition keeps on rising. We’d better start saving now.
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rubato wrote:We are the best in the world.


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Poor rubato, trying to catch some reflected glory from the achievements of others. How weak can you get?
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Poor Gob, tying to make up for being a psychiatric orderly by casting aspersions on others. How weak can you be?

I worked to help make UCSC be a great university. Joseph DeRisi proves this effort was worthwhile.

And you? What have you done?



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Oh dear, Editec you did not slur in vain! :lol: :lol: :lol:

What I have not done is try to get some glory off the work of others. Your pathetic attempt to claim "we" are the best in the world is such a clear indication of your moral and ethical weakness.
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Speaking of trying to take credit for other people's work, I've been meaning to give rube some props for finally coming clean regarding his fantasizing bullshit about those patents that for years he's been claiming that "he's" acquired:
I have many patents granted and more filed each year....

we had the annual inventors dinner on Thursday night and I had the most patents filed in 2011!! With 5...

As long as my patents make > $10 million a year in net profits (and I'm filing 3 more this year with 2 provisionals)...
He has finally admitted that the situation regarding those supposed patents of "his" is exactly as I deduced it to be long ago:

It seems to be the case that part of the way the company rube works for compensates it's employees is to toss them some sort of bonus whenever the company obtains a new patent, no matter how low ranking that employee may be. (This is why rube is able to talk in some detail about these patents occasionally; they probably send a company email around about it when they get one.)

From rube's pay-cut thread:
I'm applying for a job which would be a major cut in pay; no patent bonuses, no employer 401k match and a big cut in the base pay as well; > $20,000 yr....

And back to the present reality ... I had an interview last week. Parts went well, parts I wish I had done better with. I would really like to get the job. No patent bonuses, no 401k match, and a very large cut in base pay....
Refreshing to finally see a little honesty from you rube; it would be lovely if it were the start of a trend...
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Yeah, but he has a real lab coat with his name on it! :lol:

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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Yeah, but he has a real lab coat with his name on it!
Yeah, that's not going to make the ASPCA happy...

I assume it's a white lab coat...

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Frankly, I was quite surprised when rube made that admission about the patents he's been bragging about for years, (I was tempted to say something about it at the time, but since he admitted it in a thread where he appeared to be honestly seeking advice, I decided I'd wait until he was making a nasty jackass out of himself...I knew I wouldn't have a long wait...)

I'm certain that rube did not intend to bust himself, (that just wouldn't be rube) he just fucked up....(that would be very much rube)
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Patent bonuses are granted to inventors on patents and you are invited to the annual inventors dinner if you had a patent file in the prior calendar year, if one was granted, or if you invented something which we chose to protect as a "trade secret". The job I'm applying for would not create the circumstances which might lead to a patent.

Glad to see that you're still so insecure that this puts a rocket up your ass.

"We" can be interpreted to refer to "Americans", "Californians", or "people who have worked for and supported UCSC". As you like.



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rubato wrote: "We" can be interpreted to refer to "Americans", "Californians", or "people who have worked for and supported UCSC". As you like.

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Or as the Royal "we". :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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"We" can be interpreted to refer to "Americans", "Californians", or "people who have worked for and supported UCSC". As you like.
"We' apparently can also be applied to both the company that actually has the patents and doles out bonuses at it's discretion, and the guy who cleans the test tubes at the company and gets a bonus...

Nice try rube... :D
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