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Stand and deliver

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:09 am
by Gob
Payday loan giant Wonga has increased the interest rate it uses to illustrate the cost of borrowing to 5,853 per cent – a rise of 1,600 per cent.
The move has triggered more calls for tighter regulation of an industry that cashes in on hard-up borrowers.

Most customers of payday loan firms only take out small amounts over a short period to tide them over until they get their salary.

But lenders are required by law to give a representative annual percentage rate of interest (APR), setting out what the loan would cost over a year, so customers can make comparisons with other firms easily to find the cheapest deal.

Wonga used to give the example of a £207 loan over 20 days, with interest and charges of £47.42 and an APR of 4,214 per cent.

But it now uses a new example of someone borrowing a smaller sum of £150 for 18 days, with interest and charges of £33.49 and an APR of 5,853 per cent.

Wonga has not actually increased its charges or interest rates, but says it has voluntarily changed the loan example it uses on its website as a better reflection of how customers borrow.

The firm argues that the APR calculation, which makes assumptions about borrowing money over a full year, is not the best way to illustrate the cost of its loans to customers.

A spokesman said: ‘We made the change as the way our customers are using the service has changed.

On its website, it tells customers: ‘While shorter Wonga loans cost less in real terms for our customers, this trend means a bigger representative APR. It’s crazy but true.’

Wonga and the 49 other biggest payday loan firms have been put on notice by the Office of Fair Trading (OFT) to improve the way they agree loans, provide information to customers and chase debts.

Some customers have been given loans without proper checks that they are earning and can afford repayments.

Others have been allowed to roll over short-term loans several times, pushing interest charges to punishing levels.

Several firms have used heavy-handed tactics to chase debts.

Earlier this year, it emerged that a father killed himself after being harassed by payday loan firms demanding repayments.

Anthony Breeze, 36, from Bolton, burned to death after dousing himself in petrol and setting himself alight.

A Citizens Advice study found the firms are fuelling debt and misery by lending to the vulnerable, including people who are drunk, the under-18s and the mentally ill.

Its chief executive, Gillian Guy, said: ‘High interest rates are just one of the problems people face when taking out payday loans – hefty charges, rollovers and having their bank accounts drained, leaving them in serious financial hardship and struggling to repay money they’ve borrowed.
His band is looking better...

Re: Stand and deliver

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:22 pm
by Sue U
Gob wrote:His band is looking better...
The audience is hilarious.

Re: Stand and deliver

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 8:46 pm
by Gob
A single mother-of-two who lives on benefits used payouts from eight payday loan companies so her children could have a special Christmas.

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Unemployed Katie McGill borrowed £1,690 from the controversial firms and will have start paying back £3,000 from January 2.

The 28-year-old from Devizes, Wiltshire, took out the loans of between £80 and £380 to buy 'hundreds' of presents for her children, but now fears she will not be able to provide for them when she tries to cover the repayments.

She bought a bike, a TV and a DVD player for both Mya-Renee, three, and Calvin, eight, and took them for a meal.

The jobless mother said: 'There were hundreds of presents under the tree. Their gran passed away this year so it was nice to be able to treat them.

'They got loads of computer games for their Xbox, they got a new TV and DVD player each, new bikes and loads more.'

She will try and make the repayments with the £70 a week she has leftover after she has covered other bills.

But she is worried she will be unable to buy basic necessities for her children and has blamed Wonga for getting her into 'one big, messy, circle'.

'When I start paying back the loans I won't be able to pay the bills or buy food and drink and basic necessities.

'Then I'll start taking out more loans and it will just be one big, messy, circle.'

A spokesman for Wonga said it is not possible to take out multiple Wonga loans at once - you have to pay off a Wonga loan in full before being eligible to take out another.


Re: Stand and deliver

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 8:49 pm
by Daisy
Fucking idiot.

Re: Stand and deliver

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:03 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
and has blamed Wonga for getting her into 'one big, messy, circle'.
It's always someone/thing elses fault.
Personal responsibity is dead.

Re: Stand and deliver

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:29 pm
by rubato
Some can't tell the difference between right and wonga.

Yrs,
Rubato

Re: Stand and deliver

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:45 am
by Lord Jim
Fucking idiot.
Oh I don't know...

It's not like she's going to be on the hook for the money....

Seems to me the greatest idiocy here is in the system that allows this to happen...

I'm a little confused here...
Unemployed Katie McGill
I thought that the whole concept behind a "payday loan" was based on the idea that you had to at least be "employed" and therefore, have a "payday"...

Is the "payday loan" system in the UK set up in such a way that you can use government benefits as proof of "pay" and take out loans against them at predatory rates?

If so, then it seems to me there are bigger idiots involved here than Ms. McGill....

I'm not making any excuses for the whole "payday loan" concept, with it's usurious interest rates, preying on the most financially vulnerable and desperate, (I've condemned this at length) but if in addition, in the UK you can use government benefit payments (which I don't believe is the case in the US) to secure these loan shark arrangements, that's just nuts... :loon

Re: Stand and deliver

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:10 am
by Sean
To the best of my knowledge Jim, these are unsecured loans. The call them 'payday' loans purely as a hook.

Re: Stand and deliver

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:41 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
She bought a bike, a TV and a DVD player for both Mya-Renee, three, and Calvin, eight
But she is worried she will be unable to buy basic necessities for her children


Well she's obviously taken care of the bare necessities already - so what's the problem?
'Then I'll start taking out more loans and it will just be one big, messy, circle.'
She doesn't have the concept does she? It will be over long before it gets big and messy.

Suspiciously posed and useful photograph accompanying this article? Publicity stunt?

Hmmm....