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Legal people, competition's getting younger...
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:31 pm
by Gob
American student Gabrielle Turnquest was called to the Bar of England and Wales after passing her exams at just 18.
The average lawyer undertakes the Bar Professional Training Course when they are 27.
However, the young high-flyer will not go on to work in the UK as she wants to return to her native America to qualify as a lawyer there.
But her success means she is also called to the Bahamas Bar, the country of her parents, and she hopes to work there.
Gabrielle took the course, at the University of Law, along with her sister Kandi, who also passed her exams but at the ripe old age of 22.
The teenager, who is originally from Windermere, Florida, hopes eventually to be a fashion law specialist.
She said: “I am honoured to be the youngest person to pass the Bar exams but, really, I was not aware at the time what the average age was.
“I didn’t fully realise the impact of it.”
Gabrielle has already made history at her previous university, Liberty University in Virginia, where she was the youngest person to finish an undergraduate degree there, in psychology, at the age of 16.
If the youngster wanted to work as a barrister in the UK she would still have to carry out a pupillage at a chambers for at least a year and then be granted a tenancy.
Traditionally, a trainee lawyer had to be 21 to be eligible for the call to The Bar but that was scrapped in 2009 with the introduction of the Bar Training Regulations.
Nigel Savage, President and Provost at The University of Law, said: "The growing globalisation of law firms and the need for more international expertise means that it is becoming increasingly more important for young legal professionals to have experience across different legal markets if they are going to maximise the number of job opportunities that are available to them.”
Re: Legal people, competition's getting younger...
Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 5:03 pm
by Guinevere
This is one profession where age and experience matter far more than youth. We all have to keep up on the current state if the law, whether we have been practicing 35 years or 3 months. And law school doesn't make you a good lawyer, it just gives you the skills to become a good lawyer, down the road when you've got some experience under your belt.
Re: Legal people, competition's getting younger...
Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:23 pm
by TPFKA@W
Ditto healthcare.
Re: Legal people, competition's getting younger...
Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:34 pm
by Joe Guy
Ditto burger flipper at In & Out.
Re: Legal people, competition's getting younger...
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:34 am
by Jarlaxle
Guinevere wrote:This is one profession where age and experience matter far more than youth. We all have to keep up on the current state if the law, whether we have been practicing 35 years or 3 months. And law school doesn't make you a good lawyer, it just gives you the skills to become a good lawyer, down the road when you've got some experience under your belt.
Like my uncle's T-shirt (given as a gag when he turned 60), then: "EXPERIENCE AND TREACHERY WILL BEAT YOUTH AND ENTHUSIASM EVERY TIME."

Re: Legal people, competition's getting younger...
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:50 am
by Guinevere
TPFKA@W wrote:Ditto healthcare.
My sense is that there are more changes in technology and procedures in health care where youth/recent training can be beneficial - but it still takes time and experience to diagnose and heal and manage patients.
Re: Legal people, competition's getting younger...
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:43 am
by rubato
Gabrielle has already made history at her previous university, Liberty University in Virginia, where she was the youngest person to finish an undergraduate degree there, in psychology, at the age of 16.
Anyone?
yrs,
rubato
Re: Legal people, competition's getting younger...
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:06 am
by liberty
rubato wrote:Gabrielle has already made history at her previous university, Liberty University in Virginia, where she was the youngest person to finish an undergraduate degree there, in psychology, at the age of 16.
Anyone?
yrs,
rubato
Pat Robertson?
Re: Legal people, competition's getting younger...
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:13 pm
by dgs49
...aspires to be a fashion law specialist?
Reach for the stars.
Re: Legal people, competition's getting younger...
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:28 pm
by TPFKA@W
Guinevere wrote:TPFKA@W wrote:Ditto healthcare.
My sense is that there are more changes in technology and procedures in health care where youth/recent training can be beneficial - but it still takes time and experience to diagnose and heal and manage patients.
Hmmm Nope. Nurses come out of nursing school with loads of theory and virtually zilch for practical experience. Those of us in the field keep up with the new stuff by having it dropped in our laps and then given an inservice. Then we are saddled training new nurses to do everything they learned about in school.
When I was in school back in the dark ages I recall how often the instructors brushed over something saying, "don't worry your facility will teach you that".
Re: Legal people, competition's getting younger...
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:47 pm
by Guinevere
OK -- I definitely defer to your expertise, and your ability to use an enema as a weapon
I'm also pretty sure you will report that the nurses train the Docs too, and that they come out of school knowing even less than nothing!
Re: Legal people, competition's getting younger...
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:52 pm
by Crackpot
but they think they know everything so that makes up for it
Re: Legal people, competition's getting younger...
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:28 pm
by TPFKA@W
Guinevere wrote:OK -- I definitely defer to your expertise, and your ability to use an enema as a weapon
I'm also pretty sure you will report that the nurses train the Docs too, and that they come out of school knowing even less than nothing!
In a few cases a seasoned nurse has saved a young doctor's arse. I have called relatively new docs and had them respond with, "What do you usually do?" This is particularly true in Long term care with respect to skin issues. Nurses write the orders and the docs sign them no questions asked.
Re: Legal people, competition's getting younger...
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:58 pm
by Gob
Guinevere wrote:
I'm also pretty sure you will report that the nurses train the Docs too, and that they come out of school knowing even less than nothing!
Too bloody true, I've seen good psych nurses save a doctors bacon, and potentially a clients life, in the process.
Re: Legal people, competition's getting younger...
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:06 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
TPFKA@W wrote:Guinevere wrote:OK -- I definitely defer to your expertise, and your ability to use an enema as a weapon
I'm also pretty sure you will report that the nurses train the Docs too, and that they come out of school knowing even less than nothing!
In a few cases a seasoned nurse has saved a young doctor's arse. I have called relatively new docs and had them respond with, "What do you usually do?" This is particularly true in Long term care with respect to skin issues. Nurses write the orders and the docs sign them no questions asked.
Even though I am a degreed electrical engineer, when I go out to the production floor to fix a problem I always listen to what the techs have to say about it and their possible solutions. They deal with the product all the time day in and day out. Their knowledge about that environement and the testing/repair is more than mine. I may have designed it but they "live" it. I trust the techs.
Re: Legal people, competition's getting younger...
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:49 pm
by rubato
liberty wrote:rubato wrote:Gabrielle has already made history at her previous university, Liberty University in Virginia, where she was the youngest person to finish an undergraduate degree there, in psychology, at the age of 16.
Anyone?
yrs,
rubato
Pat Robertson?
Close, Falwell. But a dead egomaniac as opposed to a living one.
yrs,
rubato