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I like him. First episodes after regeneration are always tough cause it's usually quite manic to begin with and this one was no exception.

Once he started to settle down midway into the episode you could see glimpses of what's to come. A bit of a meal was made over his "ageing" in places but altogether, I think he's a safe pair of hands.

Some great lines too :

"look at these eyebrows. These aren't just any old eyebrows, these are ATTACK eyebrows. You could take bottle tops off with these things"

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Finally got a chance to watch this last night...

From the promos I had some trepidation about Capaldi's interpretation of the role; it looked to me like his might be a much "darker" Doctor than either Tennant's or Smith's...heavier on the "brooding" and with less of the quirky humor and campy wit...

(They very things I didn't care for in Christopher Eccleston's interpretation)

After watching the first episode, I'm a little less concerned, but for me the jury is still out...

I agree with Daze that regeneration episodes are problematic for judging a new Doctor; they're fairly atypical of where the character is really going to be headed...

It was pretty obvious that Clara, though she denied it , was basically pretty broken up about losing the romantic potential she might have had with "her" Doctor...

I think Jenna Coleman is a superb "companion"; but her strength is with her comedic sardonic wit skills; for that to work she needs a Doctor who she can play that off with well...

The chemistry was great between her and Smith; whether you can have that same kind of effective dynamic in the sort of "father daughter" type relationship she's likely to have with Capaldi remains to be seen...there were some indications especially l in the second half of the episode that it might work, but it was uneven...

(Personally I think it would be a good idea for the series to find a way to bring Alex Kingston (River Song) back in to the mix...)
Some great lines too :

"look at these eyebrows. These aren't just any old eyebrows, these are ATTACK eyebrows. You could take bottle tops off with these things"
I agree there were some good lines. That one was pretty good, but I thought Coleman really had most of the best. My personal favorite:
Madame Vastra: The establishment upstairs has been disabled with maximum prejudice and the authorities summoned.

Clara: Hang on, she called the police. We never do that. We should start.
Yes, think of all the trouble they might avoid... :D
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Well Daisy & R-B? Your opinion on him?
I realize that you didn't actually ask for my opinion, but when it comes to giving my opinion, I've never let a little thing like not being asked stand in my way...

Like Lucille Van Pelt, I believe that everyone is entitled to my opinion... 8-)
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Like Lucille Van Pelt,
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We've been watching a lot of Dr. Who the last couple of days, so I thought I'd give my evaluation of Peter Capaldi's first season...

First the good news:

My concerns that Capaldi's Doctor would be "too dark" were unfounded...

He's perfectly capable of doing the humor part of the role, in fact his Doctor has a sarcastic streak which is somewhat more biting then Smith's or Tennant's...(He really showed he could do the comedy in the "Robin Hood" episode...)

Given the right scripts, he'll make a perfectly fine Doctor...

Now the bad news for this last series:

Season 8 saw the introduction of a character that represents a greater threat to Dr. Who than all the Weeping Angels, Cybermen, and Daleks put together...

I'm speaking of course, of "Danny Pink"...

This guy was possibly the worst Third Wheel Character in the history of Third Wheel Characters...

Whiny, pouty, insecure and totally self absorbed, there was never any kind of believable context created for why Clara was attracted to him... (I say "was" because on a hopeful note, the character is supposedly dead...I certainly hope he stays that way; on Dr. Who the dead don't always remain in that condition)

To give you an idea of just how whiny, pouty, insecure and totally self absorbed this guys is, in one episode the earth is suddenly being completely over run by tree growth. With this bizarre civilization threatening thing unfolding, what's got Danny most upset ? Why the fact that Clara is still hanging out with the Doctor after she told him she was done with that of course... :roll:

As wet as Rory was, (I kept hoping for his demise as well) at least there was context created for his relationship with Amy...

They had known each other since they were kids, and their "romance" developed over a period of time...

In this "romance". in one episode Clara and Danny are working as teachers at the same school, they go out once, and the next thing you know she's so crazy mad in love with him that she steals the key to The Tardis and threatens to destroy it, (assuring that both she and The Doctor will die) if The Doctor doesn't try to figure out some way to bring her beloved Danny back from the dead....

And that aspect of the Danny Pink character, even worse then the character itself, was the effect he had on Jenna Coleman's character whenever he was a prominent part of the storyline...Not only was he a completely unnecessary and detracting part of the show, but he made her character less likeable and appealing...

That having been said, there were some pretty good episodes...

And the less Danny Pink there was in the episode, the better it was...the best episode was the one with "The Orient Express..." (coincidentally, except for a brief cameo at the end, there was no Danny Pink...)

One thing that became quite clear this season is that despite the age difference, Capaldi and Coleman have already developed an appealing and believable chemistry and timing between them, and they are quite capable of carrying the show without a "third wheel"...

I've got absolutely nothing against actor who played the role, (Samuel Anderson) he may be a fine fellow and an excellent actor...(I'd never seen in him in anything before, but from his profile on IMDB, it looks like he's got a lot of BBC television credits)

But I began to get the impression that the way this character was created, might have involved the producers coming to the writers and telling them to create a "third wheel" (perhaps because they didn't have enough confidence in the chemistry between Coleman and Capaldi to think they could carry the season by themselves) and the writers, (because they did have confidence that Peter and Jenna could handle it with out any help) decided to prove that point by creating such an unappealing and superfluous character...

Like I said; hopefully he will stay dead... 8-)
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Fingers crossed Jim, he was manipulative and borderline emotionally abusive.

However that bit where Clara was throwing the tardis keys into the volcano was one of the best moments of the series so maybe the whole point of Danny Pink was that one scene.

Missy was a great series arc, and Chris Addison as the 3W administrator was brilliant. Mummy on the orient express was the stand out episode of the year with the line "Are you my mummy?" being hands down the biggest laugh of the year.

I'm reading some of the Classic Who books at the moment and I think Capaldi's performance definitely harks back to some of those Docotor's characteristics. All in all a solid first year at the Tardis controls.

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