I like all four of those shows, but presumably Meade sits in scowling disapproval whenever Fawlty Towers or The Blackadder is on...all that meanness and ineptitude...
How little you comprehend, LJ. I am not encouraged to "like" Basil Fawlty (awful man with an awful wife) nor yet to "like" Edmund Blackadder in any of his incarnations. I enjoy both shows very much and yet do not approve of the characters' words and actions - fancy that!
But apparently I am supposed to "like" Ralph and Alice Kramden while finding their rudeness and vulgarity both acceptable and amusing. I'm supposed to approve of their boorish behavior.
I see no difference between The Honeymooners and the Stooges - both unfunny to the extreme and both unpleasant
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wesw wrote:yeah, not much difference between fawlty towers and the honeymooners....
Can I have a toke on that please?
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
People have different tastes. If one doesn't like the 'mooners, fine. They are allowed.
What I find funny is the in depth analysis of the characters some people read into.
I don't think the shows creators really checked to see what kind of "statement" they were trying to make other than to get people to laugh and to tune in next week (same bat time, same bat channel).
Anyone like the Little Rascals?
I do. it mighta choked Arti, but it ain't gonna choke Stymie
Shows creators - I don't give a rat's ass what they thought. I don't give a rat's ass what the audience thought in 1907 or whenever it was on. All I care about is how I feel about the Kramdens when I see 'em. And I don't like 'em
And Little Rascals is racist.
For Christianity, by identifying truth with faith, must teach-and, properly understood, does teach-that any interference with the truth is immoral. A Christian with faith has nothing to fear from the facts
oldr_n_wsr wrote:Yeah, all those kids of various makeups, all getting along together. Racist all right.
Originally a series of cinematic shorts produced in the 1920s and '30s, The Little Rascals (first called Our Gang) started in syndication in the '50s and "enjoyed" a run on television throughout much of the rest of the 20th Century. Its supporters liked to laud it for having an integrated cast (score!) and plot lines that stereotyped er'body ("There's fat jokes, too!"), but it doesn't take a degree in ethnic studies to know that a show with characters named "Buckwheat" and "Sunshine Sammy" who liked to bug their eyes way the fuck out and speak gibberish wasn't exactly furthering the cause of positive black imagery. The times are an excuse, but they don't excuse shit like this.
For Christianity, by identifying truth with faith, must teach-and, properly understood, does teach-that any interference with the truth is immoral. A Christian with faith has nothing to fear from the facts
specially given the fact that The Honeymooners and The Three Stooges have nothing in common at all...
Nonsense! They are awful and unwatchable to those with reasonable and mature sensiblies: If that's not having something in common I don't know what is.
yeah don t be so quick with the judgmental charges of racism.
the white kids were called "alfalfa" and "spanky", what s your point?
the show was much more about integration and getting along with all types of kids than it was about being racist. the show may have shown racist things, which were reality, but it itself was not a vehicle of racism, it was the opposite.
those kids were us kids. it was still relevant all those years later. it still is, but you won t see it or the real bugs bunny cartoons unless you really look for them.
...and alfalfa s eyes bugged out quite often if I remember correctly
I agree wes; the shorts sometimes showed racist imagery (I recall the black school janitor being a Step ' Fetchit type who mangled the English language ("When dis daw am closed, she am closed") and there was one scene where he was chased by a model skeleton attached to him that had the bugged eyes and shrieking often used for black stereotypes; and another had the kids watching a black Baptist baptism in the river which had just about every stereotype you can imagine), but for the most part buckwheat and Stymie (and Farina before them) were just kids who were part of the gang.
As for the eyes bugging out, it even happened to Petey (the dog).
There was also a black kid in that called Stymie. And Farina, although he was older, made appearances a number of time (along with Big Joe, the predecessor of Chubsy Ubsy).
And FWIW, I come from a predominantly white family, and no one in my family is named Alfalfa, or Spanky, or Wheezer, or Froggy...
For Christianity, by identifying truth with faith, must teach-and, properly understood, does teach-that any interference with the truth is immoral. A Christian with faith has nothing to fear from the facts
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For Christianity, by identifying truth with faith, must teach-and, properly understood, does teach-that any interference with the truth is immoral. A Christian with faith has nothing to fear from the facts
I am not encouraged to "like" Basil Fawlty (awful man with an awful wife) nor yet to "like" Edmund Blackadder in any of his incarnations. I enjoy both shows very much and yet do not approve of the characters' words and actions - fancy that!
